ColoCrossing, Quick to Get Large IP Blocks Issued and Faster to Soil Them
peterw
New Member
No customer will do this because they all fear Aldryic.
staticsafe
New Member
Spamhaus blocking whole IP CIDR blocks is an escalation procedure when a provider is not taking care of spam in that netblock. It is an incentive to tell your provider to clean up their network or find another provider if the existing one doesn't give a shit.
vpsboard is using Mandrill to send outbound and blacklisting is unlikely as Mandrill takes care of spam on their network.
Why would you wait 2 months for it to be resolved? What provider were you using?
Emails are dispatched via Mandrill anyway, but I'm sure the IPs I am assigned from most my providers (RamNode, BuyVM, AnyNode, Hostigation, DigitalOcean, RocketVPS, WiredTree, SecureDragon, etc) would be clean or cleaned quickly in the event of a blacklisting. I choose providers who I feel are capable and competent.
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DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
MX Tooolbox is showing the MX record for VPSB is hosted at Digital Ocean. Digital Ocean's business plan doesn't include renting entire blocks to spammers (or rotating spammers through their blocks, subsidiaries, etc) so when Spamhaus blacklists a Digital Ocean IP the SBL is almost always only for a /32 (unlike SBL's for spam friendly providers like CC/CVPS/BlueVM/123Sys/HVH where entire /24, /25, /15's get placed on the SBL).
tl;dr if someone on the same IP block as VPSB's MX record spammed it would in all likelihood have no effect on VPSB (plus VPSB uses Mandrill for most of their mailings...).
My company gets hit with anywhere from 2K-15K spam emails a day. The costs of dealing with all of that spam over the course of a year adds up to $7K-$9K (lost productivity, time spent fighting spam, etc., etc). How is it fair to companies like mine that that spam friendly piece of shit providers like CC/CVPS are allowed to profit from the sending of SPAM and cost other businesses money? I would love to see Spamhaus crack down even harder on providers like CC/Ubiquity/Ecatel, etc who have a proven track record of being spam friendly and permanently ban all of their IPs. I would also like to see the government start handing out very large fines to spam friendly providers.
Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
That's your provider's fault, not Spamhaus. Try hosting with legitimate companies that actually handle abuse reports instead of CC/HF 'providers'.
Spamhaus doesn't do /24 listings on us, just the offending IPs. They know me on a first name basis, and know that I handle any SBLs within hours - hell, half the time we don't even get listed, they just email me with the logs.
DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
This is an interesting comparison of 12 hosts (CleanTalk runs a blacklist for spam bot comment spam)
LiquidWeb IPs 4.92% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS32244
Softlayer IPs 7.47% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS36351
ServInt IPs 10.53% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS25847
Amazon IPs 17.94% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=as16509
Hetzner IPs 20.17% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS24940
Choopa IPs 24.77% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS20473
Burst.net 27.72% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS21788
Ubiquity IPs 28.21% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS15003
VolumeDrive IPs 28.87% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS46664
Psychz Networks IPs 29.43% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS40676
OVH IPs 59.9% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS16276
ColoCrossing IPs 78.66% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists/AS36352
LiquidWeb IPs 4.92% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS32244
Softlayer IPs 7.47% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS36351
ServInt IPs 10.53% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS25847
Amazon IPs 17.94% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=as16509
Hetzner IPs 20.17% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS24940
Choopa IPs 24.77% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS20473
Burst.net 27.72% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS21788
Ubiquity IPs 28.21% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS15003
VolumeDrive IPs 28.87% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS46664
Psychz Networks IPs 29.43% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS40676
OVH IPs 59.9% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists?record=AS16276
ColoCrossing IPs 78.66% spam rate https://cleantalk.org/blacklists/AS36352
My provider had a /26 with the compney it was a /22 blacklisted.
my host is honest and lives in the UK.
heres they dmca policy:
http://www.jdrhost.com/en/dmca-policy/
hellogoodbye
New Member
Getting blacklisted for spam has nothing to do with DMCA notices though, or am I missing something here?
(I also did a quick Google search on JDR Hosting and I really wouldn't call them honest if they're so active in blackhat forums/groups with many complaints to their name.)
(I also did a quick Google search on JDR Hosting and I really wouldn't call them honest if they're so active in blackhat forums/groups with many complaints to their name.)
wlanboy
Content Contributer
Another reason to avoid Psychz Network, VolumeDrive and Ubiquity.
Nope - nothing at all.
Any yes - JDR is a no-go to for their activities.
D. Strout
Resident IPv6 Proponent
Just remembered that I did order with false info and no intention of paying, and their WHMCS mail hit my spam box - SpamHaus recorded the IP as dirty. Oh CC/CVPS, as if we didn't have enough reason to hate you.
its not vpsace fault.
Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
If I chose to use a screwdriver to drive a nail, especially when efficient and affordable hammers are easy to come by, then it is indeed my own fault.
If spamhaus lists an entire /15 of any of the providers in the list above, the percentage would be much, much different 
Not to be the devil's advocate in here, as I am not yet affected by any of this, however the whole spamhaus thing in relation to CC looks like some personal vendeta against them. I do not approve many of their actions, that's something I am not hiding, however this thing over here is just... Yeah, nevermind
Not to be the devil's advocate in here, as I am not yet affected by any of this, however the whole spamhaus thing in relation to CC looks like some personal vendeta against them. I do not approve many of their actions, that's something I am not hiding, however this thing over here is just... Yeah, nevermind
Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
Considering that Spamhaus is an anti-spam organization, and ColoCrossing is not only known for willingly selling to spammers, but outright lies to Spamhaus about dealing with them.. well, sure, of course Spamhaus is going to treat them more harshly. And I don't fault them in the slightest for it.
D. Strout
Resident IPv6 Proponent
That's why we need spam databases not run by robots - real humans can use "justified prejudice" against a provider who is known to be spammer-friendly, as opposed to robots just automatically banning IPs.
800th post, woot woot!
AleksandrRazoR
New Member
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