@Aldryic C'boas , I think I'll be headed to the range tomorrow and will take my Mosin with me... I've still not fired the damn thing yet which is shocking considering I've had it for over a year. Unsure why I've not fired it since it came with ammo as well...
Also, this is funny, my sister found a photo of me as a kid all dressed up like a cowboy. And well, things haven't changed much:
Also, this is funny, my sister found a photo of me as a kid all dressed up like a cowboy. And well, things haven't changed much:
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Where is that Russian Aldy at?
I took the 1934 Russian Mosin Nagant out of the safe today and took her to the range. First time I've ever shot one, and first time this rifle has been fired since WW2. This thing is a BEAST. Holy hell. My shoulder will be sore tomorrow and the palm of my hand from racking the bolt. Only had 20rds on me, which is what came with it, so fired all of that. Went to the LGS afterwards and they were out of 7.62X54R
Pretty happy with how well I did though... 13 on paper of 20, though keep in mind that 10 rounds I shot sitting down, and ten I shot standing up. The fella that I was sharing this lane with actually (accidentally) severed the tie wire that we hang targets on as well so 3 or 4 shots I did while the target was sideways and at an angle. Excuses excuses, I know. Though I'm still content with the results at 50yards. Next time I'll go with a proper bench rest or something so I can hold it more steady and do better.
Spent a couple hours on the pistol range though, probably did better over there.
I took the 1934 Russian Mosin Nagant out of the safe today and took her to the range. First time I've ever shot one, and first time this rifle has been fired since WW2. This thing is a BEAST. Holy hell. My shoulder will be sore tomorrow and the palm of my hand from racking the bolt. Only had 20rds on me, which is what came with it, so fired all of that. Went to the LGS afterwards and they were out of 7.62X54R
Pretty happy with how well I did though... 13 on paper of 20, though keep in mind that 10 rounds I shot sitting down, and ten I shot standing up. The fella that I was sharing this lane with actually (accidentally) severed the tie wire that we hang targets on as well so 3 or 4 shots I did while the target was sideways and at an angle. Excuses excuses, I know. Though I'm still content with the results at 50yards. Next time I'll go with a proper bench rest or something so I can hold it more steady and do better.
Spent a couple hours on the pistol range though, probably did better over there.
Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
HAH. Yeah, a stock mosin will tear your shoulder up pretty quick. It's not really the kick, but the stock is a bit shorter than a conventional rifle, as they were designed for soldiers wearing thick winter gear. Grab you one of these: www.amazon.com/dp/B001HIT1UO/
No permanent modification to the rifle. Just pull out the two screws holding the metal buttplate, slap this on, same two screws go back in to hold it in place. Adds enough length to the rifle to let you get a much more comfortable pull on it, and won't wear your shoulder down nearly as fast.
If you'd like to try scoping it without any permanent modification, give this a try: https://advancedrifleparts.com/product/m91-mosin-nagant-scope-mount/ . Does require a bent bolt, but you can pick a full bent bolt up for about 50$ and not have to modify your original. This scope mount takes about 15 minutes to install, if that: knock out the rear sight pin, tap the mount into its place, lock it down, good to go.
I'm bringing mine out to the range tomorrow (along with my Vepr and my new SR22), so I'll snap some pics while I'm out there.
No permanent modification to the rifle. Just pull out the two screws holding the metal buttplate, slap this on, same two screws go back in to hold it in place. Adds enough length to the rifle to let you get a much more comfortable pull on it, and won't wear your shoulder down nearly as fast.
If you'd like to try scoping it without any permanent modification, give this a try: https://advancedrifleparts.com/product/m91-mosin-nagant-scope-mount/ . Does require a bent bolt, but you can pick a full bent bolt up for about 50$ and not have to modify your original. This scope mount takes about 15 minutes to install, if that: knock out the rear sight pin, tap the mount into its place, lock it down, good to go.
I'm bringing mine out to the range tomorrow (along with my Vepr and my new SR22), so I'll snap some pics while I'm out there.
Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
This is my Мосина. There are many like her, but this one is mine.
Still need to pick up some lower profile rings, and possibly grab a LER scope with 54r BDC. Absolutely love the new stock though.
Still need to pick up some lower profile rings, and possibly grab a LER scope with 54r BDC. Absolutely love the new stock though.
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She's a beaut @Aldryic C'boas
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I'm going to steal that.. BRB
The good news is that I will soon qualify for discounts on firearms... wuh'roh! There is a big law-enforcement gun supplier not too far from me and supposedly I can buy things like brand new Glocks for $400. They don't deal to the public and you have to call and schedule your visit in advanced. I don't need anything else but I may pick up something nice and shiny for my Christmas present to myself...
The good news is that I will soon qualify for discounts on firearms... wuh'roh! There is a big law-enforcement gun supplier not too far from me and supposedly I can buy things like brand new Glocks for $400. They don't deal to the public and you have to call and schedule your visit in advanced. I don't need anything else but I may pick up something nice and shiny for my Christmas present to myself...
Ahhh yes, pro deals are a fantastic thing. I've saved so much money on buying shit (I probably don't need) You get discounts on much, much more then firearms. Check out promotive, they have a pretty good assortment of pro deals available to LE.
wlanboy
Content Contributer
Happy International Bacon Day!
What does bacon have to do with the gun thread? Good question...
Ahhh, I need to get on one of his videos I've known Matt for 10+ years now awesome to see how big his channel is getting.
What does bacon have to do with the gun thread? Good question...
Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
So why are you only commenting when a nice white school gets shot up? Did all of the inner city gang violence not deserve any attention?
wlanboy
Content Contributer
Thanks you for going into the trap. And I won't stop telling you things that you don't want to hear - even if you press the racist button.
1.Both things don't happen in my country.
2. I can only quote what the press is still posting. If the US press is thinking that the gang shootings are too common to write something about it. Well... won't make the numbers looking better.
1.Both things don't happen in my country.
2. I can only quote what the press is still posting. If the US press is thinking that the gang shootings are too common to write something about it. Well... won't make the numbers looking better.
Most the gun violence in the United States is stemmed from a small minority groups and is generally inner-city, gang related violence. This can be easily confirmed by looking up the Department of Justice and FBI related crime statistics.
Every weekend in Chicago, in a state with some incredibly strict gun laws, there are many killed and dozens and dozens wounded as a result of gun violence. For Chicago specifically, visit http://heyjackass.com/ as they have some good stats collected and keep track of all the inner city shootings that occur there.
The media doesn't glorify this because it's just another day in gangland USA. No one cares if some thugs kill each other in the street. The media doesn't. The President doesn't. Your average suburban Mom taking her kids to soccer practice doesn't.
If America's demographics were the same as your country, and if you removed the gun violence that occurs in gang ridden thug infested cities like Baltimore, St. Louis, Washington DC, Chicago, Detroit, etc... America's gun stats would honestly look a lot like most of Europe and the rest of the developed world.
I'm not saying that what happened in Oregon wasn't a tragedy, it most certainly was. But there is absolutely no gun control measure that the liberals have pushed for that would have prevented this. And besides, America's gun violence (and violence and homicide in general) is already at the lowest point it has been in decades.
I'm not for sure what could or would have prevented this, but stricter gun control measures certainly would not have prevented it. It's also easy to blame mental health, but usually mental health issues are only diagnosed or realized after something crazy happens. Certainly a fucked up world we live in.
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Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
Funny, I said *NOTHING* about race. You made that assumption.
And yet, you haven't quoted anything else recently, although incidents have happened. The problem with this situation is that you are using the shooting as an excuse to trumpet your own opinions around. Have you personally done anything? Been part of a protest, wrote to a politician, signed a petition? No? Nothing except sit on the internet and use the "recent news" as a scapegoat? You've only cheapened the tragedy by using it as an excuse to push your own opinionated "moral superiority" around? And you're a piece of fucking trash for doing so.
Oh, I have no doubt that you'll keep running your mouth. Unlike some, I *welcome* educated differences in opinion (and you don't even know my stance on gun laws, yet there you go making assumptions), it lets me expand my own world view. But thank you for making it beautifully clear that there is nothing to be learned from discourse with you. So I'll tip my hat and disregard your further drivel.
EDIT: (To clarify for folks that may not have noticed - I have nothing against folks that think we need stricter gun control. What I have a problem with are people that use tragedies like what just happened to justify slinging their own uneducated opinions around when they've otherwise done *nothing* themselves to try and fix a problem other than bitch about it on the internet.)
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Nice. I love his channel, and now that Carnik Con ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfdBzQc8yZKkk-5N-8GYHDg ) has stopped making videos, which really stinks because he was my favorite for gun info/humor, I am watching all of Matt's videos now.Ahhh, I need to get on one of his videos I've known Matt for 10+ years now awesome to see how big his channel is getting.Happy International Bacon Day!
What does bacon have to do with the gun thread? Good question...
A good YouTube channel to follow as well. Some people don't realize he's joking half the time and get upset when he purposely calls magazines "clipazines" and says stuff like "Glock brand Glock" and refers to himself as an "operator"... haha. I think it's funny anyway. P
After you watch that, you may want some cake...
I like his torture test videos.
I love his dry humor that some people probably would interpret as seriousness. "Who is this fool? Clip-o-zine? Glock brand Glock? Operator? Who the fuck is this guy?"
I love guns, I would rather have a gun on me or with a person with a gun then be in a gun free zone. Im sorry but gun free zones get people killed.
Is a criminal more likley to bring a gun to a gun free zone or a bar in texas where probably everyone has a gun on them?
I would say the gun free zone easier targets and minimal ways for them to fight back.
Is a criminal more likley to bring a gun to a gun free zone or a bar in texas where probably everyone has a gun on them?
I would say the gun free zone easier targets and minimal ways for them to fight back.
Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
It's a double-edged sword. Any soldier that spent time with a civilian militia will tell you there is *nothing* more dangerous than firearms in the hands of people with no proper training. I've seen a number of close calls at the range I frequent from the younger "look at my AR it's so cool" crowd that were never taught to respect or properly handle a weapon, and to be quite honest if some mad gunman ever dropped in and opened fire, I'd be more likely to take a stray round from one of those idiots than the actual shooter.
Of the top 10 leading causes of death (2013, http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf) - all but TWO of those are health related. And the remaining two are general accidents and suicide. But we don't see fast food chains (diabetes, heart disease, stroke) or cigarettes (cancer, respiratory disease) being banned. So no, "banning guns" is not the answer.
Gun Control is a very touchy subject.. but I think 'gun regulation' would be an acceptable middle ground. No, I don't think people should be forced to register every firearm they own for the government to track. Liberty vs Security/etc. But whenever I go to Academy to pick up some brass or cleaning supplies, I *always* see more of those shitty AR15s on the racks than hunting rifles or shotguns. And I have nothing against someone wanting to own a semi-automatic rifle - I have several myself (two Veprs and a Marlin). But I do fully support the notion that there needs to be more than just a "let's see if you're a felon" check. At the very least, gun ownership should require the same qualification as driving - passing a certified course where you were properly trained in handling and respecting various firearm types. Ideally, it should be something closer to a CCL - where you have to re-qualify and an instructor watches you shoot to ensure you actually know what the hell you're doing.
Would this stop mass shootings? Not entirely, no - you also have to correct the problems that led to the individual making those choices to begin with. Which is why banning guns would also not be a feasible option. If someone's intent on murder, something as simple as a "no guns" law isn't going to stop them. Even if they couldn't get ahold of a firearm - the US has a massive farming industry, which means ammonia nitrate cannot be reasonably restricted. Aluminum powder is very easily attainable as well, and the proper mixture of those two items is how Tannerite (explosive) is made. Ban one or the other? You might as well also try to ban 95% of the Wal-Mart cleaning aisle - I can make some spectacular explosives with very common items. I mean hell, just ask the UK how well banning firearms has worked against the IRA.
So no, simply banning guns is not the answer. Neither is 'control'. Regulation, possibly. Proper certification and training? Definitely. But even then, these are all just band-aids. The problem is underlying, and isn't going to be resolved by kneejerk reactions. And *CERTAINLY* won't be resolved by internet know-it-alls.