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mikeyur

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Took 3 months, $300, 16 hour training course + testing, but I finally got my RPAL (Canadian Firearms License)

Looking at shotguns, trying to decide between a Mossberg 500 and Remington 870.
 
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MannDude

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Took 3 months, $300, 16 hour training course + testing, but I finally got my RPAL (Canadian Firearms License)

Looking at shotguns, trying to decide between a Mossberg 500 and Remington 870.

Awesome! What are the restrictions on what you can and can not have up there? I'm unfamiliar with Canada's law.
 

mikeyur

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Took 3 months, $300, 16 hour training course + testing, but I finally got my RPAL (Canadian Firearms License)

Looking at shotguns, trying to decide between a Mossberg 500 and Remington 870.

Awesome! What are the restrictions on what you can and can not have up there? I'm unfamiliar with Canada's law.
So many restrictions, which most US gun owners would go "what the fuck is this shit?!?!"

I have a non-restricted & restricted license. So non-restricted is the majority of hunting rifles/shotguns/etc - pump/bolt/semi-auto/etc. Anything >18.5" barrel length is typically non-restricted. I can go to the store and walk out with one at any time, cash transaction, no paperwork. 5 round mag limit on centre-fire, no limit on rim fire.

Restricted is anything <18.5" barrel. So all handguns are restricted, as well as a lot of 'scary looking' rifles (aka anything the government deems restricted for any stupid reason). 10 round mag limit.

Restricted can't be shot in the bush/private property/etc, only at a range. Purchase requires paperwork and a short term ATT (authorization to transport) - aka license to move it from the gun shop to your house, which takes like a week or so. Then you need a long term ATT to be able to bring it to the range, so you need to be a member of a club that partners with ranges - apply for that, and then you can move it. When you move it you need all the paperwork with you and can only go to/from the range - ie. you can't keep the gun in your car, only your house -> range -> house.

And there are other restrictions around storage and stuff.

Anything full auto == prohibited, aka good luck getting one unless you're law enforcement/military.
 
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MannDude

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Oh wow. That does sound like a pain and it's unfortunate you can't legally shoot "restricted" class firearms on your own private property or hunt with a rifle in that class. I know people who build AR15's specifically for taking out coyotes and stuff on farms. I guess if they were in Canada they'd have to find something else. Being required to shoot that stuff at the range is silly.

What do you guys do when you're hiking or deep in the bush? I'd want to be able to carry a large ass revolver for bears at the very least. I guess just lug around a un-restricted long rifle?
 
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He also forgot the part of hand guns we can't have a lot of those either. There is a restriction on how short the barrel can be on it or they are prohibited which means you can't take it out of your house even to the range, you can only sometimes get a permit for them to take to a gun show.

However, in most major/mid sized towns if you wanted you could get a full auto ak etc from the criminals in hours I'm sure. Gun laws like we have in Canada is just retarded. If they fixed that issue it would be a much better place to live!
 

mikeyur

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What do you guys do when you're hiking or deep in the bush? I'd want to be able to carry a large ass revolver for bears at the very least. I guess just lug around a un-restricted long rifle?

Most of my buddies that go camping usually have someone in the group with a shotgun.

He also forgot the part of hand guns we can't have a lot of those either. There is a restriction on how short the barrel can be on it or they are prohibited which means you can't take it out of your house even to the range, you can only sometimes get a permit for them to take to a gun show.

However, in most major/mid sized towns if you wanted you could get a full auto ak etc from the criminals in hours I'm sure. Gun laws like we have in Canada is just retarded. If they fixed that issue it would be a much better place to live!

That's true. There are a ton of other restrictions, was trying to give the broad strokes. No shortage of silly restrictions
 

MannDude

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Awesome! What's the regulation like on barrel length there? Here in the US, anything under 16" is considered a Short Barreled Rifle and is regulated to all fuck, requiring paperwork and a NFA stamp. :(

Good choice on the Mossberg though. I was going to buy one but the shop didn't have any in at the time, so get a Remington 870 instead. Both are very common shotguns and you can buy an insane amount of aftermarket parts for them if you want to. :)
 

mikeyur

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Awesome! What's the regulation like on barrel length there? Here in the US, anything under 16" is considered a Short Barreled Rifle and is regulated to all fuck, requiring paperwork and a NFA stamp. :(

Good choice on the Mossberg though. I was going to buy one but the shop didn't have any in at the time, so get a Remington 870 instead. Both are very common shotguns and you can buy an insane amount of aftermarket parts for them if you want to. :)

18 or 18.5" I think, but there's some other rule regarding total length.. so some rifles have like 16" barrels but bigger receivers/stocks so they're still cool as non-restricted.

I picked it for the flexibility since it came with both a 18.5" & 28" barrel, choke set, pistol grip, etc and only ~$50 more than the cheapest 870. I'm really happy with it, put about 100 rounds through it today.

I'm screwed though.. I'm hooked, already looking at the next purchase. I thought about a cheap .22 for plinking.. but for ~$20 more I can get a surplus SKS which actually shoots something with some kick and isn't too crazy expensive to shoot (although seems like a bitch to maintain if shooting the cheap corrosive surplus ammo).

I also wandered over to the pistols section of the store and was checking out some Glocks... This is going to get expensive.
 
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MannDude

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Sorry for the bad photo:


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Decided to take the rotary tool out and put some polishing pads on it. About thirty minutes with some Mother's Mag polish and I was able to get a mirror like finish on the barrel and slide stop lever on my custom Kahr CM9. Ignore the white specs... that's dust . I still need to take apart the trigger assembly and polish the trigger so it matches the rest. The slide stop lever and barrel both were originally the same dull color as the trigger. Not really a performance or or practical modification like my others, but it looks nice.
 

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I need to do some polishing on the trigger assembly on my AR to reduce friction on contact points. Lots of good tutorials online for this and should make for a much nicer and cleaner trigger pull while slighlty reducing the trigger weight too. House is a mess and I need to clear off an area of a desk for some winter/cold weather gun smithing.


Hoping to get a reloading bench setup this winter and am thinking of buying some ceracoating supplies as well...
 

mikeyur

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Alright, it was meant to be. Walked into the gun store and they had a used 10/22 that just came in, had only been on the rack for a couple hours.


In awesome shape and super clean, came with 2 x 25 round mags and a loader, plus a laser on the front - for the same price as a new one without any of the extras.


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MannDude

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Awesome! They're great rifles for the price and 22LR is so fun/cheap to shoot. Practical for target practice or hunting small game like rabbits :)


Mmmm.... rabbits.
 

mikeyur

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Awesome! They're great rifles for the price and 22LR is so fun/cheap to shoot. Practical for target practice or hunting small game like rabbits :)


Mmmm.... rabbits.

Yeah. I'm passing on the SKS for now, way more expensive to shoot. Can't beat $25-35 (CAD) for a brick of 350-500 rounds. Plenty of fun for pennies.


Also good for when I bring ladies shooting, although I like to tenderize their shoulders a bit first with a couple 3" slugs.


SKS is definitely next.. they're like $200 for a Russian military surplus one in awesome condition... and the flip-up bayonet makes it 1000x cooler.


Shotgun -> .22 -> SKS -> Glock(?) -> ???
 
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