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update on $1 per year vps idea (32MB Club)

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mtwiscool

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Aldryic isn't representing BuyVM on these forums. He is representing himself. When you talk with him a ticket, he is always professional. On here, he says what he thinks. We all do.
It's the first point of contact.

So he is only kind if you give him money?
 

Aldryic C'boas

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I'm rarely unkind.  What I am is honest - and if honesty is bothering you, perhaps you should stop to consider why commentary on something you do upsets you.  Here's a hint: the problem lies with you.

As an interesting bit of information - as of this writing, I have 1666 posts, and 1784 'thanks'.  If I were truly as 'mean' as you claim, I wouldn't have such a ridiculous ratio - obviously quite a few people like what I have to say.  Just because I don't sugar coat things and you get upset, doesn't automatically posit that I'm a jerk to everyone.

But, I'm wasting my time.  Despite the fact that two separate people have stepped in to defend me, you'll continue to believe what you want because you refuse to accept any advice or input that you don't like.
 

mtwiscool

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You wrote: "i asked someone to ddos someone in the USA in April 2012"


And really, those were just the first google results. I'm sure there's more if I had the interest to look.
that one was solved between a parties, just to say it's more complex then you think but it's solved and we made up as friends.
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
Why don't you answer some of the more uncomfortable questions you've been avoiding - such as:

Are you aware that, as a minor, there is nothing you can do to prevent law enforcement from seizing equipment?  All it's going to take is a single client doing something nasty enough, and you'll find the entire node (and every VM it contains) gone after the DC turns over the drive.
And that's not even touching on the other problems a child running a 'business' presents.
 

mtwiscool

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Why don't you answer some of the more uncomfortable questions you've been avoiding - such as:

And that's not even touching on the other problems a child running a 'business' presents.
You would have to give other drives as well.

You would have no more rights then me.
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
Actually, yes, I do.  Francisco owns the equipment, which means the warrant for seizure must come to us.  Because we're not skids, and we comply with federal court orders, if we're legally bound to turn over the data we can do so without taking the node offline, or even removing physical drives.

You are a minor.  You do not own the hardware, and cannot be served papers as we can, so law enforcement would serve the DC, instead.  They will promptly rip your box offline and turn over the drive, as to do otherwise would risk a forced seizure.
 
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mtwiscool

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Actually, yes, I do.  Francisco owns the equipment, which means the warrant for seizure must come to us.  Because we're not skids, and we comply with federal court orders, if we're legally bound to turn over the data we can do so without taking the node offline, or even removing physical drives.

You are a minor.  You do not own the hardware, and cannot be served papers as we can, so law enforcement would serve the DC, instead.  They will promptly rip your box offline and turn over the drive, as to do otherwise would risk a forced seizure.
And they would come in and take your boxes offline no difference.
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
Try reading for content.  I just told you that no, they wouldn't.  I know this because we've been in that situation before, and I have firsthand knowledge of how the process works for setups like ours.

I've also seen what happens to setups like yours - minors that don't own the gear.  But, by all means, continue deluding yourself.  I believe I'd covered this before, actually:

[..] you'll continue to believe what you want because you refuse to accept any advice or input that you don't like.
That aside, you still haven't answered the question.  What is your contingency plan for if that situation comes to pass, and you lose the gear?  "Whoops, sorry folks - no more node and no more VPSes, and btw no refunds".
 

mtwiscool

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Try reading for content.  I just told you that no, they wouldn't.  I know this because we've been in that situation before, and I have firsthand knowledge of how the process works for setups like ours.

I've also seen what happens to setups like yours - minors that don't own the gear.  But, by all means, continue deluding yourself.  I believe I'd covered this before, actually:

That aside, you still haven't answered the question.  What is your contingency plan for if that situation comes to pass, and you lose the gear?  "Whoops, sorry folks - no more node and no more VPSes, and btw no refunds".
Order a new node :)
 

Amitz

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Wow. Have not seen the 'implied facepalm' for a while. There must be some serious shit going on! :)
 

drserver

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Verified Provider
i am strongly recommending you to take your calculator out and do your math again with clear head and no alcohol involved.

let me try to explain you something. With that pricing even if everything sucks you will get thousands of clients.

How will you support them ? You alone ?

How will you deal with bandwidth overages ? on few K customers something will go wrong 100%

You are aware that you have to get some kind of spare resources in case of any problems ?

And last / Most important, you have obligated your serf for those persons for 1 USD per year. Will you be able to pull out such amount of obligation ?

Best of luck with your project but think again 
 

MartinD

Retired Staff
Verified Provider
Retired Staff
Just to confirm what Aldryic said, we've also been in the same situation and haven't had the equipment seized. When you're a genuine company law enforcement treat you as such and will make requests rather than walking in to the DC and pulling equipment.
 
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