kcaj
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Is that a criticism?
update on $1 per year vps idea (32MB Club)
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Aldryic C'boas
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No, pointing out that English is his native (and only) language. If you stop to consider that when reading most of his posts, it's rather scary that anyone is taking him seriously.
What still intrigues me, though - maybe one post out of 20 or so is almost grammatically flawless. A bit rambling, but fully coherent with accurate spelling and punctuation. Someone posited the idea that there were multiple people using his account - the more I see of that, the more I start to feel the same way.
What still intrigues me, though - maybe one post out of 20 or so is almost grammatically flawless. A bit rambling, but fully coherent with accurate spelling and punctuation. Someone posited the idea that there were multiple people using his account - the more I see of that, the more I start to feel the same way.
Ok how many people are you planning on putting on a single node before it's "full"?
Aldryic C'boas
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It doesn't matter, because apparently people buy VPSes to never use them
We are planning around 500 people per node.
Ok you claim you're not overselling.
Lets put this in concrete numbers.
Your using the KS-4 plan from Kimsufi in their BHS location. This specific server has the following specs:
4x 3.1GHz (Max of 3.8 GHz)
16 GB RAM
1 TB HDD (only a single hard drive mind you)
100 Mbps unmetered
You stated that you have a maximum of 500 clients per server at the following plan:
1 Core
32 MB RAM
1.5 GB Storage
No port speed information
Now recall your previous statement that 30% of your customers don't even use it at all (assumed by the fact that 30% does not even open the e-mail as stated by you). This leaves about 350 clients who actually open it up and use it.
Now provisioning wise, you obviously provision the proper VMs, so we're going to assume the unused VMs are still taking up "RAM and HDD Space" (because it's provisioned for them, used or not)
32 MB * (1 GB/1024 MB) * 500 Clients = 15.625 GB RAM Provisioned
1.5 GB * 500 Clients = 750 GB Provisioned
1 Core * 500 Clients = 500 Cores (oh wait... shared use!) = 4 Cores clocked at... lets say benefit of the doubt 3.8 GHz
Well... we forgot fair use for the CPU!
4 Cores * (3.8 GHz/1 Core) * (1024 MHz/1 GHz) / 500 Clients = 31.13 MHz per client
So each client theoretically gets 31.13 MHz per core.
But hey, remember only 30% of them actually use it.
4 Cores * (3.8 GHz/1 Core) * (1024 MHz/1 GHz) / 350 Clients = (31.13 MHz per client)/0.7 = 44.5 MHz per Client
Wow that's 13.37 MHz MORE per person!
Now remember, we have 100 Mbps port speed. But again fair use and with that much client density...
100 Mbps * (1024 Kbps/1 Mbps) / 350 Clients = 292.57 Kbps per VM! Or more than twice the speed of dialup! (assuming Dialup speed is around 110 Kbps)
Now remember that one hard drive! Meh, we'll be generous and give you 100 MB/s for your IO Benchmarks (even though Kimsufis themselves are mostly on recycled hard drives).
100 MB/s * (1024 KB/s/1 MB/s) / 350 Clients = 292.57 KB/s IO
But what does that even mean? Well here's a lovely picture of a parrot I found on imgur!
http://imgur.com/gallery/3tsf3eu
The picture itself is 1.32 MB big! That means it'll take 4.62 seconds for it to write and read from the hard drive. But wait, we also want to service it on the internet! That's another 4.62 seconds!
But lets say we're not interested in sending pictures of parrots, and have other needs that needs to be met. Well lets see how long it takes for us to write onto the hard drive space!
1.5 GB would take 1.5 hours to fill at a network port speed (and IO speed) of 292.57 KB/s.
Look, you're not actually overselling on hard drive space, nor RAM (well... you are technically overselling it because the OS itself also needs room), but you are terribly overselling the CPU, the IO, and the network bandwidth.
@mtwiscool, you are overselling your services.
Edit: I realized I forgot to convert from bits to bytes. But whatever.
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Aldryic C'boas
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The sad thing is - even faced with mathmatical and proven truths.. he will simply pretend the logic does not exist, and continue to claim that his embarrassing facade is legit and contains any shred of quality.
I never claimed a port speed nor did i say the disk io or cpu io was dedicated but other services who don't oversell RAM or HDD
Do you buy 1TB of bandwidth per user or dedicate iops to a vps @ https://catalysthost.com/?
No.
But then again we don't put 500 VMs on a single, more beefier by the way, server.
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So mines is not oversold if your is not?
This isn't a simple comparison between our services and yours.
It's a statement that you're selling 500 VMs on a desktop computer.
Amitz
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Those are not my hair!
But both are or not oversold.
The problem is that he never tries listening to anyone.
So @mtwiscool, how is 32mb.club going? How many clients do you have so far? You were asking how to get more so I assume you have at least one...?
12 at last count.
Aldryic C'boas
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I love how he quoted, and yet completely ignored the first line of your post there, raindog.
mojeda
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If this is having to be said every other page then maybe a solution be put in place.
A chunk of your community is tired of this guy's posts and his crap here, yet you guys seem to be babying him.
I'm not trying to be rude to anyone but why should we have to put up with his crap, if he is participating in this community. If he doesn't like it here he should not be here. People in this thread are talking like they are because it is justified. People have tried to help him and he refuses to listen so he will be treated the way he is.
I'm sorry but this whole thing is a complete joke, I don't get why the staff here are protecting him so much.
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