Why does this sound... oh so familiar?
GreenValueHost becoming ColoCrossing, dumping providers, etc.
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DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
You do realize that Spamhaus often works closely with law enforcement, including the FBI, don't you? Spamhaus, the FBI, the US Postal Service, and several other organizations even partnered on a consumer fraud awareness website several years ago (see here http://www.lookstoogoodtobetrue.com/members.aspx ).
Dealing with email SPAM and web based threats like comment SPAM, botnets etc costs my company thousands of dollars per year and in recent months over 50% of all US originated SPAM and web based threats we've been hit with have originated from ColoCrossing's network so as far as I'm concerned [warning NSFW language about to hit] the scumbag motherf*ckers at sleazy providers like ColoCrossing (and Ecatel in Europe) should be forced to pay "a handful million dollars in damages" to my company and every other company that has been hit with the expense of dealing with SPAM that originates on ColoCrossing's network. I can't tell you how much it f*cking annoys me when I hear clown providers like you, Biloh, or some of those hosts who are railing against Spamhaus on LET showing absolutely no concern for the expenses incurred by companies who are on the receiving end of all the shit coming off ColoCrossing's network.
edited to add: I've mentioned this before but my company does actively block in our firewalls all IPs/sites listed on the Spamhaus Don't Route Or Peer List (DROP) and Extended DROP List (EDROP) and the ultilization of Spamhaus and other blocklists (we use over a dozen different blacklists) has greatly reduced the amount of crap we have to deal with (and along with that reduction in incoming crap comes a reduction in our annual SPAM/threat fighting expenses) so I am a big proponent of businesses using blacklists as one tool in their arsenal of fighting spammers and other threats.
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Nick_A
Provider of the year (2014)
Based on what? Which parts of their business model should we all be following?GVH-Jon said:
Based on what? I don't have any beef with them, but I've never been struck by their "tremendous business acumen."
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Does GVH use NodeWatch or some other tool to prevent/reduce spam originating from its servers? Or does it rely on complaints?
Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
Your "best" is worthless. But don't worry - nobody actually expects substance from the likes of you.
Wow, it's almost like Spamhaus is recognizing all of you CC-owned chumps under one umbrella now instead of bothering with the "individual companies". Oh, wait...
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Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
The legitimacy of his "trademarks" is equal to the legitimacy of his other claims. Did you really take anything he says at face value?
In Jon's world, you simply put the TM next to the "slogan" and it becomes trademarked at that point.
DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
That slogan was in use on the home page of a UK jeweler long before Jonny co-opted it. http://www.jeremysfischer.co.uk/
Slogan #2: "Innovating Customer Experiences" : chances of getting a trademark registered on this one are zilch because it is a commonly used marketing expression used by hundreds of companies (16,500 references to the expression in Google). Amazon even uses that phrase in some of their job recruitment offers (4th paragraph: https://us-amazon.icims.com/jobs/259156/software-development-engineer----audible-discovery/job?mobile=false&width=1404&height=1200&bga=true&needsRedirect=false). Quick Jon, better call your lawyer so he can file a trademark infringement suit against Amazon for using your "trademarked" slogan.
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Hxxx
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drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Hard to say about Spamhaus entries for GVH, because GVH doesn't have it's own ASN. You have IPs from a basket of providers. I can tune my eyeball lens and come up with something to chase your IP soilage around... I am kind like that, and some other folks surely will step up to help.
As far as Spamhaus being wrong here, I've never heard such a bunch of whiney bitches in my life. Acting like what goes on from your servers, from your network, etc. isn't your concern. WTF? I know plenty of CC family companies that can't stay the FUCK OUT of customer files, containers, etc. Any use for real, and some fat fingered control dork is in the container looking at processes, rooting through files, etc. Deny it all you want, cause I know first hand fellow. Lie to the devil all you want. So acting like you lads are proactive, oh you are. Just not in the right ways. If I pay you for spam-friendly IPs, you just ignore that. If I buy a 100TB BW VPS at insane price and actually use it, yeah you are in it and looking to shake me as a customer.
Spamhaus deals with the BIGGEST and WORST problem people on the net. It ranges from run of mill spammers to those selling illegal narcotics via said stuff, to extortion and ID thieves to??? The ROKSO list and stories there in, are graphic, some horrendous.
CC getting the double sided end of the dildo in the rear from Spamhaus? Overdue. It's not some grand conspiracy of influence either. CC controls far more IPs than it can police, and has them for the intended purpose of abuse and unsavory behavior. ARIN ought to get involved and make a precedent and repo some I think.
All this IP gamery and CC interest, yeah, let me catch someones info erroneously SWIP'd or related to a CC IP they never had, and what will happen won't be funny. I know CC is trafficking lists of customers amongst their partners and external pals for falsifying IP justification to get their ranges.
If anyone at ARIN cares, comply with info disclosure on the IP justifications for CC and I'll do the rest to prove it.
End of that tale, will be CC busting out that "we care about customer privacy" blah blah... That's why you never let folks know properly when hacked or when handing their info to ARIN. And you care so much, see container entry policy above and some conversation here and there about 3rd world helpdesk outsourcing.... and skids working in the sub-partner companies. Privacy my ass. Fraud to justify behavior is more like it.
Well if I find CC IPs not under CC's Spamhaus family tree / IP owner, Spamhaus and myself are on the direct contact cleanup request trip. I've bitched for a while about ChicagoVPS and others not being lumped under CC. When Spamhaus started lumping them correctly, look at what happened? Top of that ugly list.
Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
Welp, last I spoke with them ARIN has been looking for solid evidence that GVH and the other shills are just shuffling IP space for justifications. If someone had the time to put together that, as well as documenting the known mass-selling of IPs to spammers? CC would be at serious risk of having a good chunk of their IP space revoked, in use or not.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Feel free to PM me such correspondences, if you can.
I don't have any special treatment/pull with Spamhaus and go through normal public channels with stuff. If I have something to reference, perhaps they can filter relative inbound better to proper person.
I go on about personal details on IP SWIP and such, because CC's IP information is all retarded. They have IP info on public formal SWIP lookup for companies that have had public fallout with them a year or more ago. I know one person still receiving abuse emails to his PERSONAL account for IPs at CC they haven't had since last year. I see companies in IP info who haven't been at CC in years.
I'll hand audit every one of the 721k IPs and make the data heap from hell for ARIN.
Someone at CC should muzzle their new GVH PR bulldog before he burns the castle down. If he's a real customer, his contract should come with terms to that extent.
Aldryic C'boas
The Pony
That's what I find most hilarious. The kid can't resist running his mouth, and is saying quite a few things that CC is going to hate having recorded publicly. Then he gets his leash yanked back, and we just sit and wait until he makes an embarrassment of himself again.
Don't get scared, little boy. You keep claiming that CC doesn't own you - well, now that you've opened them up to some attention that can have serious consequences, let's see how long you get to sit and keep barking before they haul you behind the shed for good :3
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We have discovered a bug in our provisioning system which is causing same IP addresses to be assigned to multiple VPSes. In order to fix the virtual machines that have been affected by this, we are going to do an emergency renumbering of IP's in the following nodes : LA6, CH1EMERG, AMS1NEW at 10PM MST June 22. We are sorry that we could not give a longer notice about this. Your new IP's will be listed on your VPS Control Panel as soon as the renumbering is done. Feel free to contact us if you have any questions.
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