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BuyVM - Leaving Buffalo Early

lbft

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We have been informed that we will not be allowed inside the datacentre, and will be waiting outside the security door for the gear to be brought to us.
That really makes me worry that they might be up to funny business.
 

rds100

New Member
Verified Provider
You should have just put several (like 5-6) new nodes in the new location, then live migrate the customers from 5 nodes in the old location to the new one, go and get those 5 empty nodes from the old location and move then to the new one, live migrate more customers, etc. Repeat as many times as needed. This would decrease the risk of drama.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
That really makes me worry that they might be up to funny business.
I don't think they want it documented in large red font on WHT that they physically damaged nodes that were in mint condition while in their facility. There was only 2 nodes we shipped in that weren't new-in-box from newegg/etc. 1 of them was just a chassis and the other was partially completed.

Remember, they want to see themselves grow and that won't be possible if there is proof they bent brand new rails, dented servers and or banged up drives. They know if anything got tied back to them (or a worker), that it'd be documented for good and I'd go on a complete warpath.

Do they really want to piss off someone that has made it so no less than 2 datacenters can't get new ARIN IP space and has been threatened by ARIN at least twice each about revoking?

No, because they're not idiots. It's pretty damn rare that you get Jon to take off his suit & tie in conversations. He's very prim/proper and all about business.

TL;DR - They would become my new hostdime and I'd make it known every time their name comes up that they damage customer gear out of spite.

Francisco
 
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drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
^--- I hope for everyones sake that they see it this way too.   I'd still insist on self unracking and self carting out of the facility and do so with official escort so no finger pointing later.

As far as ARIN and allocations--- isn't there a requirement that IP space is actually utilized before issuing more?   Someone needs to look at the IP usage over there...  Just a hint to the lazy bums at ARIN.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
^--- I hope for everyones sake that they see it this way too.   I'd still insist on self unracking and self carting out of the facility and do so with official escort so no finger pointing later.

As far as ARIN and allocations--- isn't there a requirement that IP space is actually utilized before issuing more?   Someone needs to look at the IP usage over there...  Just a hint to the lazy bums at ARIN.
Who knows. Like it or not, I think a lot of it comes down to Matt. If Matt doesn't come along it's always possible they'll let us derack or at least be in the DC during it. I'd like that but it's not up to me :p

As for ARIN, yes. You have to have 80% usage before you can go requesting more.

Francisco
 
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drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
As much as the humor rate increases lugging Matt along, I'd leave him safe and sound outside of NY State.

Last thing anyone wants is served papers on site / under NY jurisdiction for what was alleged with their Cali rack.  Far reaching, but desperate times call for similar actions.

Me, I'd bring Ald and the smokies and get 'her done right.

You folks are in for the trip of your life on this one either way.
 

rds100

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Verified Provider
So send Matt to the new DC running cables and preparing things for when you arrive with the gear? No need for unnecessary confrontation by bringing him with you in the old facility.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
So send Matt to the new DC running cables and preparing things for when you arrive with the gear? No need for unnecessary confrontation by bringing him with you in the old facility.
The cabling isn't an issue though.

We don't run split vlan's or anything like that. It's literally 'plug cables from here to here' and document what port each server is plugged into.

We have clip rails which literally 'clip' right into the peg holes w/o screws or brackets.

Really, the amount of prep work is so minimal. You need to understand, Vegas wasn't brand new chassis like most of NY. maybe half the OVZ nodes in LV are clip rails, the rest require screws which requires the pain in the ass project of install the nut-clips (tee-hee).

Once we got into LV we started getting rails installed nearly right away. Once Aldryic & Karen understood how the rails & clips installed, I started getting our LACP's online. The router was online hours prior to any nodes coming up.

LV had burps after the move was done because it was a huge project. People need to understand that LV not only had a move happen, but a complete network rebuild the following day. We wanted to do the network upgrade at the same time as the racking but we didn't have enough man power or time. EGI was warning Matt that it was not in his best interest to take the trip with us to Vegas (even though we went on a weekend if I remember correctly).

The NY stuff is small. There is no router or switching replacement. There is no LACP's involved. There is no 12 hour drive and it isn't being done over night. Really, the NY move is cake once we're out the door.

Francisco
 
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rds100

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Verified Provider
Still if they won't let him participate in the unracking anyway, there is no need to bring him at the old DC?

He can go buying pizzas, coffee or whatever.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
Still if they won't let him participate in the unracking anyway, there is no need to bring him at the old DC?

He can go buying pizzas, coffee or whatever.
There's no for certain that Matt's even coming anywhere with us.

I'm doing a multi city trip. I'm going to Vegas for a week to get the SSD's well underway and the KVM upgrades done. By the 7th I'll catch my overnight flight to Buffalo.

Francisco
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
Fran: How many physical boxes you have in Buffalo?
We have ...8? with CC and another rack in Batavia with one of Aldryic's family friends.

Originally the plan was to have all of it right in CC but we changed our minds and ended up just doing this funky setup using some bonded business lines. It works, it's just not amazing.

CC handles our BGP sessions so everything just hauls to there.

It's a derpy setup alas but by the time we needed those nodes online no one was on board for racking more with CC.

We'll only have enough spare power in choopa to get another KVM node online. I was hoping for more but the E5's seem to eat more than I had predicted.
 

wlanboy

Content Contributer
I would like to ask for some pictures of the move ... as long as noone of CC gets mad about it.
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
I know why they don't want Fran and Pony in the datacenter....

They don't want them seeing the Iranian flags over in the next cage.  Or the fine Persian rugs.
 
 
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raindog308

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I would like to ask for some pictures of the move ... 
Here's one of Fran doing his "happy to get out of Buffalo" dance.

happy%20fran.png
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
I'm in the Chicago airport right now pending my flight to Buffalo. Pony is in the Dallas airport I think pending his direct flight to Buffalo as well.

From the looks of it CC will allow us to personally go in and derack our equipment.

I'm not sure if Jon will be on site when that happens but it seems Chuck and...Zack? are handling the communications on this all.

Like us, they don't want any drama in this all and rather a simple power off, grab, & go.

Francisco
 
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