Hahaha.
UGVPS = Thomas Dale = Crystal Dale = ChicagoVPS = Dig the Mine
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vRozenSch00n
Active Member
Geez, I wonder how that happened? Who did that? Godaddy must be messing up again.
opcorn:
Now to direct all inbounds from UGVPS.COM to this thread
opcorn: Is it popcorn time already? opcorn:
@AuroraZero in addition to what you've said it is about duping customers and exploiting rules of websites/forums to further their agenda. With all these problems happening I asked the other day on LET if it would be ok for me to register 13 reseller businesses of HTTP Zoom which would allow me to post one ad a day. It seems other companies have been doing this and getting away with it.
Although HTTP Zoom wouldn't do this as it dilutes the brand, it would seem the Low End World has become an exploiting ground for a few well known people to churn cash from customers who really are victims.
Although HTTP Zoom wouldn't do this as it dilutes the brand, it would seem the Low End World has become an exploiting ground for a few well known people to churn cash from customers who really are victims.
What was their response?
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
That's kind of the punchline to the entire story of why ColoCrossing snaked/stole/abducted/corrupted the lowend sites.
Anyone count the recent Christmas 9 offer run? Of those offers... how many were unaffiliated with CC? That is do not have brand, servers, deals, etc. with CC? Think I counted a solid SIX that are CC affiliated.
Not be a mathematician, but statistically, CC isn't big enough to say it alone is over 50% of the whole affordable VPS market. But some reason it keeps ending up in these big offer percentages over and over again.
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DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
The customers who are victims include both VPS end users who wind up paying for crappy service (or pay annually only to see their provider deadpool), and some gullible inexperienced providers who fall for the "leave your day job behind and get rich quick by renting our servers and following our foolproof low end marketing method" sales spiel, only to find out the hard away that there is no easy money.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Just to reaffirm your choice... You realize there are multiple provider who run adds specifically stating they are not with ColoCrossing. Also, some CC providers state humorously, in their ads, "Yes, CC!".
I know several providers who have left CC and their businesses have been better in their new locations. CC isn't bad, but the network, especially in Buffalo has been laughable at times. The routes continue to be not so great as they are basically a backhauled location to either NYC or CHI, and both are too far to be playing that game. Then you have the soiled IP space, questionable network neighbors, etc.
CC isn't horrible. I'd be a customer if they were oh $35 for 1U colo. They close deals on long term leases/rentals and that's something I'd NEVER touch. I do RTOs or pure owned colo only.
Because of the no margin lease/rentals they do it attracts idealistic folks about 30 days from self destruction, in mass. If I didn't know better I'd think that's their VPS customer acquisition scheme.
DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
I don't know if it's actually advertised but most offers out of CC data centers seem to follow the same formula and use the same marketing points even when it's a provider that CC doesn't have a "financial relationship" with or share an office with.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Ahh someone joked on UGVPS first week in business about CC having a BUSINESS IN A BOX FRANCHISE. You see how that turned out with UGVPS being involved in identity theft and midnight wire transfers out of PayPal... and who the joker in that night was...
Something is surely different with a bunch of "companies" dangling off CC's network. Folks are a tad too friendly with each other and relationships don't strike me as professional. But what the hell do I know? I pay my invoices and send Christmas cards and sometimes when in town take a vendor out for a meal or send pizzas over to their office. Perhaps the younger folks are into game reality that becomes make it and bake it VPS biz. Seems to be a good bit of that formula.
Something is surely different with a bunch of "companies" dangling off CC's network. Folks are a tad too friendly with each other and relationships don't strike me as professional. But what the hell do I know? I pay my invoices and send Christmas cards and sometimes when in town take a vendor out for a meal or send pizzas over to their office. Perhaps the younger folks are into game reality that becomes make it and bake it VPS biz. Seems to be a good bit of that formula.
Ok, just recognized this username from SD, but I would just like to say that I do believe Chris is banned on SDeals, his CVPS_Kevin account is banned on there. He was banned for what I believe was trying to get certain users who post frequent VPS or webhosting deals and in the CVPS thread to post VPS deals for his "clients"
Basically he (Chris), was contacting specific users on SDeals and telling them to email him for an opportunity to post some threads for some of his "clients" advertising their products for several hundred dollars once a month since he could not do it himself.
It seems that someone did take up his offer as there have been a few "structured" (typed out posts by Chris) CCrossing related postings on SDeals, all by the same person.
Summary:
Chris banned on SDeals for soliciting users to post offers for him. Still tries to get threads up on SDeals. Pretty sure SDeals generated huge sales for CVPS (deleted thread with 50 pages over 1000 purchases).
DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
The WHOIS for digthemine.com has been updated (new address Lockport, NY...old one was Pittston, PA) and so the domain should be unsuspended soon.
Dig The Mine LLC is registered in Pennsylvania. The listing of a New York address for the domain registrant could be problematic because New York State law requires that foreign entities (i.e. an LLC registered in another state) that have an office in New York submit an application for authority to do business in New York (application fee is $250). Dig The Mine LLC doesn't appear to have registered as a foreign LLC in NY state yet. Foreign LLCs/corporations that have a presence in New York state are also required to apply for a NY sales tax permit and collect sales tax from NY state residents because sales tax is charged on services, including hosting services in NY (NY state taxes almost everything...with the exception of taking a sh*t but I'm sure that tax is in the works).
Dig The Mine LLC is registered in Pennsylvania. The listing of a New York address for the domain registrant could be problematic because New York State law requires that foreign entities (i.e. an LLC registered in another state) that have an office in New York submit an application for authority to do business in New York (application fee is $250). Dig The Mine LLC doesn't appear to have registered as a foreign LLC in NY state yet. Foreign LLCs/corporations that have a presence in New York state are also required to apply for a NY sales tax permit and collect sales tax from NY state residents because sales tax is charged on services, including hosting services in NY (NY state taxes almost everything...with the exception of taking a sh*t but I'm sure that tax is in the works).