GreenValueHost outsources customer support to India.

[MannDude]

... did I see earlier in the thread a claimed $60k/year gross revenue from WHMCS?

If that is one of "the largest" on LEB... my lord what a small group that is.

It's not chump change but there has to be at least 20+ that do that or more, so not really a small elite group he is in. $65,000/YR revenue is roughly 800~ clients assuming they pay $7/mo. Not 'small', but not brag worthy either after the cost of everything. Take home pay after the cost of all bills and everything is still likely less than what could be earned doing any regular unskilled labor type job that was fulltime and much less stressful. Factory work. Restaurant work. Etc.

 

[Wintereise]

To be fair, he probably misheard. 

bgp.he.net is anything but an actual representation of what's going on anyway.

It gives you a basic idea, but that graph should be treated with extreme skepticism.

 

[drmike]

I thought December was a good month for us. And the month after that, January, we've already far surpassed our December sales rate.

I don't want to burst your bubble.  Here's the deal, you are selling extreme amounts of e-crack (be it mostly imaginary) to VPS crackheads on LET.

I could sell I suppose 1-2k new orders a month with a brand new company and no experience in the marketplace by offering such crazy "deals".

Let's not argue about the imaginary part.  I can't see how anyone could possibly use 100TB and not hit other limits on CPU sustained, ToS funnies or not be pruned with the often spotty network (especially in BUFFALO).

At the pace you are going with pricing, short of offering free reach arounds with every order there is little else you could do to sweeten the pie.  It's like the ultimate enticement / luring of susceptible folks.  

I remain, ummm, fascinated by such an extreme sales tactic and am unsure what I am watching.  It seems like a school bus full of students crashing in slow motion.   

Let me know when Dallas is lit up, non CC and I'll burn it up.  I need to chip in a distro mirror. Vrroom!

 

[Nett]

Only @Serverian and a few others can do high-memory VPS at LTB/T price while maintaining performance and uptime. A 32GB RAM server is WAY TOO SMALL for such VPS, you need at least dual Xeon E5 and 128GB RAM.

 

[DomainBop]

It's not chump change but there has to be at least 20+ that do that or more, so not really a small elite group he is in. $65,000/YR revenue is roughly 800~ clients assuming they pay $7/mo. Not 'small', but not brag worthy either after the cost of everything. Take home pay after the cost of all bills and everything is still likely less than what could be earned doing any regular unskilled labor type job that was fulltime and much less stressful. Factory work. Restaurant work. Etc.

Jon says he never lies so there wouldn't be any take home pay and the company would be running a few hundred thousand dollars in the red after paying their employees based on some of the claims the kid is making: they have several system administrators who are earning top dollar  (the average salary of one system administrator is slightly above the $65K revenue projection), 11 of their 12 techs are L3 ("We have 12 techs total with 11 of them being at least L3.") and 7 of those 12 techs are US based according to GVH. 

Some humorous quotes from the thread on LET:

I think that it is basic virtualization knowledge to know that regardless of the space that is available on the node, when you reinstall a virtual server sometimes you cannot immediately see all the disk space that has been allocated to your virtual server with the df -h command. It may take a little time for updatedb to perform a rescan.

There's no such thing as CPU abuse when you have CloudLinux on the server.

 

[Jack]

I think that it is basic virtualization knowledge to know that regardless of the space that is available on the node, when you reinstall a virtual server sometimes you cannot immediately see all the disk space that has been allocated to your virtual server with the df -h command. It may take a little time for updatedb to perform a rescan.

:lol:

 

[GVH-Jon]

This is completely and extremely unfair. You CANNOT IN ANY WAY base assumptions from statistics from the previous month. I said that we experienced significant and massive growth over the past month as our expansion plan started weeks after that was posted. A lot has happened over the past month that's increased our capital reserve. And no, we're not getting funded from anyone in our upstream. Biloh has already made a public statement saying that we're not directly affiliated with ColoCrossing.

This thread is now being flooded with ridiculous assumptions and claims all stemming from nothing but absolute jealousy and pointless hate against ColoCrossing

 

[peterw]

... did I see earlier in the thread a claimed $60k/year gross revenue from WHMCS?

If that is one of "the largest" on LEB... my lord what a small group that is.

Someone on irc calculated racks/servers from Ramnode and come to a total revenue of over $1000k/year. So Greenvaluehost is small.

 

[GVH-Jon]

Someone on irc calculated racks/servers from Ramnode and come to a total revenue of over $1000k/year. So Greenvaluehost is small.

YOU CANNOT BASE ASSUMPTIONS OFF STATISTICS FROM LAST MONTH.

 

[Amitz]

http://vimeo.com/11787515

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

YOU CANNOT BASE ASSUMPTIONS OFF STATISTICS FROM LAST MONTH.

Given the lack of statistics for this month, I find that to be a perfectly logical estimate.  You don't actually think people are going to believe your we experienced significant and massive growth over the past month claim without any backing, do you?

After all, you could just take another screenshot to give meat to your declarations if the numbers were really what you claim.  Just hope that nobody reverses the math.

 

[joepie91]

This is completely and extremely unfair. You CANNOT IN ANY WAY base assumptions from statistics from the previous month. I said that we experienced significant and massive growth over the past month as our expansion plan started weeks after that was posted. A lot has happened over the past month that's increased our capital reserve. And no, we're not getting funded from anyone in our upstream. Biloh has already made a public statement saying that we're not directly affiliated with ColoCrossing.

This thread is now being flooded with ridiculous assumptions and claims all stemming from nothing but absolute jealousy and pointless hate against ColoCrossing

Hmm. I thought you believed all publicity was good publicity?


Reality catching up with you?

 

[SkylarM]

This thread is now being flooded with ridiculous assumptions and claims all stemming from nothing but absolute jealousy and pointless hate against ColoCrossing

I wondered when this line was going to be used. You used that the "Are you jealous" bit with me the other day in IRC and couldn't back it up with anything so went silent.

I'll just say this. You are on the wrong forum if you think anyone here is in any shape or form jealous of ColoCrossing or your business floating as a result of utilizing ColoCrossing. You're sounding more and more like Fabozzi every time you post. Just missing the #winning.

 

[GVH-Jon]

Let me know when Dallas is lit up, non CC and I'll burn it up.  I need to chip in a distro mirror. Vrroom!

The UPS tracking number that our SH acccount manager gave us says the shipment should be in Dallas this Wed.

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

And no, we're not getting funded from anyone in our upstream. Biloh has already made a public statement saying that we're not directly affiliated with ColoCrossing.

This is why Zeneva should have jumped on the ColoCrossing wagon a long time ago. Even we wouldn't want him.

Well, that's awkward.  Does your 'not directly affiliated' upstream approve of you speaking for them?  Or is mindreading the 'special arrangement' you spoke of earlier?

I guess you're just going to ignore my prior post?

Given the lack of statistics for this month, I find that to be a perfectly logical estimate.  You don't actually think people are going to believe your we experienced significant and massive growth over the past month claim without any backing, do you?

After all, you could just take another screenshot to give meat to your declarations if the numbers were really what you claim.  Just hope that nobody reverses the math.

 

[GVH-Jon]

Well, that's awkward.  Does your 'not directly affiliated' upstream approve of you speaking for them?  Or is mindreading the 'special arrangement' you spoke of earlier?

I guess you're just going to ignore my prior post?

We as in GVH have a fair chunk of the "wagon" because a lot of CC based hosting providers go through either us or HVH because they'd get better pricing by going through us.

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

Of course they 'go through you' now.  Fabozzi and crew were shitcanned from WHT.

Still ignoring the fact that a simple screenshot would back your claims of 'mass increase in sales'.  Or are you pretty much accepting at this point that nobody's going to believe you?

 

[GVH-Jon]

Of course they 'go through you' now.  Fabozzi and crew were shitcanned from WHT.

Still ignoring the fact that a simple screenshot would back your claims of 'mass increase in sales'.  Or are you pretty much accepting at this point that nobody's going to believe you?

I'm not authorized to provide any further classified information of any kind after the Skylar-leak incident. If you'd like to believe me, you can. Personally I think that since I'm an honest person and have never been caught in a lie (as I've never lied to any customers or in any PR), that a fair bit would believe my statements but I accept that there will always be skeptical people such as yourself.

 

[SkylarM]

I'm not authorized to provide any further classified information of any kind after the Skylar-leak incident. If you'd like to believe me, you can. Personally I think that since I'm an honest person and have never been caught in a lie (as I've never lied to any customers or in any PR), that a fair bit would believe my statements but I accept that there will always be skeptical people such as yourself.

"Skylar leak incident". Do I need to remind you that you willingly posted all of that information yourself? I have no affiliation with your company, ColoCrossing, or anything that would have made anything YOU told me "confidential". The image of your annual revenue you willingly posted in the vpsboard IRC channel as well.

 

[Aldryic C'boas]

So you were fine with posting your projected income from last month.. but a screenshot of the same chart for this month to back up your claims is a no-go?  That alone tells plenty.
 
Let's touch on something you said earlier, in reference to your dealings with HVH:
 

And we don't have as many resold dedis as you think.

Now, let's look at another quip:

We as in GVH have a fair chunk of the "wagon" because a lot of CC based hosting providers go through either us or HVH because they'd get better pricing by going through us.

So you're claiming that a lot of CC based hosting providers use your Dedi Packages for their nodes?  To quote George Carlin, That is what's known as being STUNNINGLY full of shit.