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BuyVM announces Europe, Anycast IP's, Floating IP's, & Bandwidth pooling!

Steven F

New Member
Verified Provider
billingisdown.jpg
Looks like a typical Friday night at Frantech, just with less weird anime.
 

Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
That's actually a fairly accurate representation of how I looked sprawled on the DC floor after we moved the gear to Vegas - a 10 hour drive after already being up 32 hours >_>  I was chugging Karen's 5-hour energy things like they were водка shots for that trip.
 

HalfEatenPie

The Irrational One
Retired Staff
That's actually a fairly accurate representation of how I looked sprawled on the DC floor after we moved the gear to Vegas - a 10 hour drive after already being up 32 hours >_>  I was chugging Karen's 5-hour energy things like they were водка shots for that trip.
I did that during finals week every once in a while. Take those 5 hour energy shots like they were whiskey.

Turns out, you're only supposed to take like one or two every 24 hours. I think I added like 20 years (or probably lost 20 years) to my life.

tldr: I've found the secret to eternal life bitches!
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
And now for some test IP's :)

Filtered - 198.251.84.1

Unfiltered - 107.189.0.1

Filtering is done by Staminus and is brought in from NL. Latency difference should be nothing/next to nothing as the DC has multiple 10gbit runs there.

I know, we're behind, & I'm sorry :(

Francisco
 

MannDude

Just a dude
vpsBoard Founder
Moderator
And now for some test IP's :)


Filtered - 198.251.84.1


Unfiltered - 107.189.0.1


Filtering is done by Staminus and is brought in from NL. Latency difference should be nothing/next to nothing as the DC has multiple 10gbit runs there.


I know, we're behind, & I'm sorry :(


Francisco
Typical Canadian, apologizing for nothing. :p

Looking forward to the launch. :)
 

Steven F

New Member
Verified Provider
And now for some test IP's :)


Filtered - 198.251.84.1


Unfiltered - 107.189.0.1


Filtering is done by Staminus and is brought in from NL. Latency difference should be nothing/next to nothing as the DC has multiple 10gbit runs there.


I know, we're behind, & I'm sorry :(


Francisco
Loss - Min - Avg - Max (for below)

Here are some Super-Ping screenshots for the filtered IP.

Asian Ping Times

America (North and South) Ping Times

Europe Ping Times

Here are some Super-Ping screenshots for the unfiltered IP.

Asian Ping Times

America (North and South) Ping Times

Europe Ping Times
 
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DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
And now for some test IP's
TEST 1

Sao Paulo to BuyVM

2  217.148.154.177.static.sp2.alog.com.br (177.154.148.217)  0.359 ms  0.485 ms  0.296 ms


 3  ae2-core-02.sp2.net.alog.com.br (177.126.190.193)  9.100 ms  9.091 ms  9.072 ms


 4  xe-2-2-0-edge-01.sp2.net.alog.com.br (177.126.190.209)  0.377 ms  0.361 ms  0.344 ms


 5  169.52.125.189.static.impsat.net.br (189.125.52.169)  0.738 ms  0.816 ms  0.803 ms


 6  po2.ar3.MIA2.gblx.net (67.17.68.234)  108.374 ms po3-20G.ar3.MIA2.gblx.net (67.17.75.66)  106.794 ms  107.062 ms


 7  ae5.edge2.miami2.level3.net (4.68.111.121)  107.033 ms *  107.285 ms


 8  ae-226-3602.edge5.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (4.69.162.150)  199.301 ms ae-225-3601.edge5.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (4.69.162.146)  198.366 ms  198.811 ms


 9  IP-TRANSIT.ear2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (212.72.41.54)  199.247 ms IP-TRANSIT.ear2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (212.72.41.50)  199.002 ms  199.140 ms


10  te2-4.r3.ams.sara.nl.iptransit.com (204.26.60.6)  208.700 ms te2-2.r3.ams.sara.nl.iptransit.com (204.26.60.2)  208.332 ms  208.591 ms


11  te2-1.r2.lux.iptransit.com (204.26.60.13)  208.788 ms te1-2.r2.lux.iptransit.com (204.26.60.9)  208.551 ms te2-1.r2.lux.iptransit.com (204.26.60.13)  208.189 ms


12  ic-root.lux.as5577.net (199.59.206.22)  241.687 ms  241.678 ms  241.385 ms


13  107.189.0.1 (107.189.0.1)  213.093 ms  212.875 ms  212.220 ms

Sao Paulo to OVH

2  217.148.154.177.static.sp2.alog.com.br (177.154.148.217)  0.343 ms  0.319 ms  0.303 ms


 3  ae1-core-01.sp2.net.alog.com.br (177.126.190.185)  0.251 ms  0.474 ms  0.447 ms


 4  xe-2-2-0-edge-02.sp2.net.alog.com.br (177.126.190.213)  2.355 ms  2.344 ms  2.329 ms


 5  186-201-206-81.customer.tdatabrasil.net.br (186.201.206.81)  1.182 ms  1.173 ms  1.156 ms


 6  * 187-100-39-29.dsl.telesp.net.br (187.100.39.29)  4.012 ms  3.987 ms


 7  et1-0-0-101-GRTRIOTW1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (84.16.7.69)  27.034 ms et2-0-0-101-GRTRIOTW1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (84.16.7.73)  30.820 ms et1-0-0-101-GRTRIOTW1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (84.16.7.69)  22.330 ms


 8  Te0-8-0-2-grtmiabr6.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (176.52.248.74)  126.350 ms 176.52.248.90 (176.52.248.90)  127.450 ms Xe15-0-0-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (176.52.248.102)  167.040 ms


 9  Hu-1-5-0-0-4-grtmiabr6.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (84.16.15.128)  131.603 ms  131.602 ms  131.584 ms


10  Xe1-1-5-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.166)  160.675 ms * Xe0-1-7-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.121.161)  162.182 ms


11  * mia-1-6k.fl.us (178.32.135.52)  125.800 ms *


12  * * *


13  * ldn-5-6k.qc.ca (198.27.73.10)  244.976 ms *


14  rbx-g2-a9.fr.eu (91.121.131.181)  306.864 ms  275.021 ms  275.091 ms


15  pcc-2b-n7.fr.eu (37.187.36.6)  245.465 ms rbx-g2-a9.fr.eu (37.187.36.48)  237.363 ms  273.929 ms


16  * * gra-3b-6k.fr.eu (178.33.103.230)  268.711 ms


BuyVM wins that one by 56ms.  Good news for spammers users with pony fetishes in Brazil.

TEST 2

Cape Town to BuyVM

traceroute to 107.189.0.1 (107.189.0.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets


 1  197-85-186-1.cpt.mweb.co.za (197.85.186.1)  0.486 ms  0.695 ms  0.810 ms


 2  196.41.144.34 (196.41.144.34)  0.432 ms  0.488 ms  0.615 ms


 3  tengig-1-5-cpt-hscore-1.mweb.co.za (196.28.178.65)  0.746 ms  0.848 ms  0.909 ms


 4  tengig-0-0-0-2-11-cpt-p-1.mweb.co.za (197.84.5.225)  147.553 ms tengig-0-0-0-2-11-cpt-p-2.mweb.co.za (197.84.5.226)  158.147 ms tengig-0-0-0-2-11-cpt-p-1.mweb.co.za (197.84.5.225)  159.436 ms


 5  tengig-0-7-0-0-cpt-p-2.mweb.co.za (197.84.4.32)  148.213 ms w2-pos0-3-3-1-thd-p-1.mweb.co.za (197.84.4.197)  148.645 ms tengig-0-7-0-0-cpt-p-2.mweb.co.za (197.84.4.32)  148.049 ms


 6  be-3-779-thd-up-1.mweb.co.za (176.67.177.227)  159.929 ms  146.190 ms w2-pos0-3-3-1-thd-p-1.mweb.co.za (197.84.4.197)  157.153 ms


 7  be-4-778-thd-p-2.mweb.co.za (176.67.177.146)  146.174 ms be-15-777-thd-linx-1.mweb.co.za (176.67.177.133)  147.418 ms be-4-778-thd-p-2.mweb.co.za (176.67.177.146)  157.997 ms


 8  peering.linx.eu.iptransit.com (195.66.225.106)  145.386 ms be-3-779-thd-up-1.mweb.co.za (176.67.177.227)  148.304 ms peering.linx.eu.iptransit.com (195.66.225.106)  145.422 ms


 9  te4-1.r2.lux.iptransit.com (199.59.206.134)  154.142 ms  163.219 ms  163.124 ms


10  ic-root.lux.as5577.net (199.59.206.118)  154.745 ms  170.373 ms peering.linx.eu.iptransit.com (195.66.225.106)  145.324 ms


11  te4-1.r2.lux.iptransit.com (199.59.206.134)  163.711 ms 107.189.0.1 (107.189.0.1)  153.878 ms  169.945 ms

Cape Town to BlueVM Switzerland

2  196.41.144.34 (196.41.144.34)  0.478 ms  0.581 ms  0.673 ms


 3  tengig-1-5-cpt-hscore-1.mweb.co.za (196.28.178.65)  1.239 ms  1.325 ms  1.391 ms


 4  tengig-0-0-0-2-11-cpt-p-1.mweb.co.za (197.84.5.225)  147.660 ms  147.696 ms  147.725 ms


 5  tengig-0-7-0-0-cpt-p-1.mweb.co.za (197.84.4.33)  148.649 ms tengig-0-7-0-0-cpt-p-2.mweb.co.za (197.84.4.32)  148.423 ms tengig-0-7-0-0-cpt-p-1.mweb.co.za (197.84.4.33)  148.518 ms


 6  197-84-4-201.cpt.mweb.co.za (197.84.4.201)  147.227 ms  146.278 ms w1-pos0-3-3-0-pos0-3-4-1.thd-p-1.mweb.co.za (197.84.4.195)  146.692 ms


 7  be-8-778-thd-p-1.mweb.co.za (176.67.177.145)  145.711 ms  161.475 ms  145.742 ms


 8  be-2-776-thd-up-2.mweb.co.za (176.67.177.235)  160.672 ms be-3-779-thd-up-1.mweb.co.za (176.67.177.227)  147.522 ms  147.589 ms


 9  be-16-776-thd-linx-1.mweb.co.za (176.67.177.236)  162.867 ms be-15-777-thd-linx-1.mweb.co.za (176.67.177.133)  159.834 ms be-15-779-thd-linx-1.mweb.co.za (176.67.177.228)  148.143 ms


10  40ge1-3.core1.lon2.he.net (195.66.224.21)  157.568 ms  151.017 ms  152.527 ms


11  100ge3-2.core1.ams1.he.net (72.52.92.214)  159.963 ms  160.610 ms  174.812 ms


12  100ge5-1.core1.fra1.he.net (72.52.92.6)  157.707 ms 10ge3-2.core1.zrh1.he.net (184.105.222.50)  170.407 ms  166.310 ms


13  10ge3-1.core1.zrh1.he.net (72.52.92.30)  174.934 ms  166.273 ms tengigc07p04.dist02.privatelayer.com (216.66.87.102)  182.797 ms


14  tengigc01p04.dist02.privatelayer.com (216.66.87.106)  179.292 ms tengigc03p03.edge01.privatelayer.com (216.66.87.10)  172.002 ms *


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BuyVM wins that one by default because the BlueVM test server apparently only operates on odd numbered days of the month. :p
 
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Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
Default! Default! Default! Default! Default!

For those interested, I updated the Stallion discussion thread with the UI upgrades we've done to support anycast & floating IP's.



Francisco
 

marrco

New Member
two more tests from Italy:

Residential Italy (PTP -Ping To Prometeus- is about 15ms):

Filtered - 198.251.84.1 -> 58ms
Unfiltered - 107.189.0.1 -> 44ms

DC in Milano:

Filtered - 198.251.84.1 -> 32ms
Unfiltered - 107.189.0.1 -> 31ms
 
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marrco

New Member
And strange results from OVH (France - Gravelines)

Filtered - 198.251.84.1 -> 104ms
Unfiltered - 107.189.0.1 -> 20ms


Code:
traceroute to 192.251.84.1 (192.251.84.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  * * *
 2  gra-g2-a9.fr.eu (178.33.103.231)  0.635 ms  0.901 ms  0.881 ms
 3  * * *
 4  * * *
 5  ae10.mpr2.lhr2.uk.above.net (64.125.31.194)  6.758 ms  4.765 ms  4.749 ms
 6  xe-7-1-0.cr1.lga5.us.above.net (64.125.26.37)  73.398 ms  73.344 ms  73.108 ms
 7  ae6.cr1.ord2.us.above.net (64.125.24.34)  96.725 ms  96.736 ms  92.496 ms
 8  ae4.er1.ord7.us.above.net (64.125.28.50)  92.574 ms  93.113 ms  96.905 ms
 9  * ae1.er4.ord7.us.above.net (64.125.20.142)  92.906 ms  92.885 ms
10  ae2.er5.ord7.us.above.net (64.125.20.150)  93.209 ms  92.927 ms  92.927 ms
11  128.177.117.246.IPYX-092697-ZYO.above.net (128.177.117.246)  103.981 ms  99.669 ms  99.648 ms
12  te0-1-0-0.dr2.ind2.as7332.net (209.43.26.97)  101.743 ms  101.823 ms  97.180 ms
13  te0-1-0-0.car1.ind2.as7332.net (209.43.26.6)  97.341 ms  101.583 ms  101.526 ms
14  * * *
15  * * *
16  * * *
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *

 


 


Code:
traceroute to 107.189.0.1 (107.189.0.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  [munged] 0.374 ms * *
 2  gra-g1-a9.fr.eu (178.33.103.229)  0.733 ms  0.967 ms  0.964 ms
 3  rbx-g2-a9.fr.eu (37.187.36.5)  2.727 ms 37.187.36.47 (37.187.36.47)  3.074 ms  3.054 ms
 4  ams-1-6k.nl.eu (94.23.122.69)  7.200 ms ams-1-6k.nl.eu (94.23.122.186)  7.147 ms ams-1-6k.nl.eu (94.23.122.114)  7.327 ms
 5  ams-ix2.eu.iptransit.com (80.249.211.47)  12.947 ms  12.881 ms  12.867 ms
 6  ae7.r3.ams.tc2.nl.iptransit.com (204.26.60.16)  20.120 ms  15.990 ms  15.843 ms
 7  te2-2.r3.ams.sara.nl.iptransit.com (204.26.60.2)  15.451 ms ae1.r1.lon.iptransit.com (199.59.206.149)  18.257 ms  18.242 ms
 8  te4-1.r2.lux.iptransit.com (199.59.206.134)  19.326 ms  19.274 ms te2-1.r2.lux.iptransit.com (204.26.60.13)  16.033 ms
 9  ic-root.lux.as5577.net (199.59.206.98)  15.002 ms  14.858 ms  15.085 ms
10  107.189.0.1 (107.189.0.1)  20.821 ms  16.821 ms  20.649 ms

 
 
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k0nsl

Bad Goy
Filtered from Sweden:


traceroute to 198.251.84.1 (198.251.84.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1  * 31.220.7.1 (31.220.7.1)  0.543 ms  0.453 ms
2  212.73.250.161 (212.73.250.161)  0.389 ms  0.335 ms  0.425 ms
3  * * *
4  * * ae-1-60.edge4.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.154.8)  28.905 ms
5  Telia-level3-10G.Frankfurt.Level3.net (4.68.70.106)  29.008 ms  29.059 ms  28.970 ms
6  ffm-bb2-link.telia.net (62.115.137.240)  29.058 ms  28.999 ms  28.962 ms
7  hbg-bb4-link.telia.net (80.91.245.120)  26.476 ms hbg-bb4-link.telia.net (213.155.135.21)  25.397 ms hbg-bb4-link.telia.net (213.155.134.114)  25.337 ms
8  adm-bb4-link.telia.net (213.155.136.150)  37.058 ms adm-bb4-link.telia.net (80.91.246.200)  36.927 ms adm-bb4-link.telia.net (213.155.136.152)  36.393 ms
9  adm-b4-link.telia.net (80.91.253.182)  37.163 ms adm-b4-link.telia.net (213.155.137.169)  37.160 ms adm-b4-link.telia.net (213.155.136.251)  36.434 ms
10  pni-as1299-1-ams1.staminus.net (69.197.1.80)  38.297 ms  38.080 ms  37.999 ms
11  * * *
12  198.251.84.1 (198.251.84.1)  41.149 ms  40.833 ms  41.097 ms
$
Unfiltered from Sweden:


traceroute to 107.189.0.1 (107.189.0.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1  31.220.7.1 (31.220.7.1)  0.631 ms  0.525 ms *
2  te-2-4.ams1.nl.portlane.net (80.67.4.179)  22.391 ms  22.387 ms  22.307 ms
3  ams-ix2.eu.iptransit.com (80.249.211.47)  23.153 ms  23.044 ms  22.960 ms
4  ae7.r3.ams.tc2.nl.iptransit.com (204.26.60.16)  28.317 ms  27.999 ms  27.662 ms
5  te2-2.r3.ams.sara.nl.iptransit.com (204.26.60.2)  29.620 ms te2-4.r3.ams.sara.nl.iptransit.com (204.26.60.6)  30.200 ms  29.624 ms
6  te2-1.r2.lux.iptransit.com (204.26.60.13)  29.608 ms te4-1.r2.lux.iptransit.com (199.59.206.134)  33.696 ms te2-1.r2.lux.iptransit.com (204.26.60.13)  29.470 ms
7  ic-root.lux.as5577.net (199.59.206.106)  29.909 ms  29.941 ms  33.397 ms
8  107.189.0.1 (107.189.0.1)  33.475 ms  29.546 ms  29.481 ms
$
Ping filtered (Sweden):


PING 198.251.84.1 (198.251.84.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=40.7 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=41.1 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=40.9 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=40.9 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=57 time=40.3 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=57 time=40.6 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=57 time=41.0 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=57 time=40.9 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=57 time=41.2 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=57 time=41.3 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=11 ttl=57 time=41.2 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=12 ttl=57 time=40.9 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=13 ttl=57 time=40.4 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=14 ttl=57 time=41.1 ms
64 bytes from 198.251.84.1: icmp_seq=15 ttl=57 time=41.0 ms
^C
--- 198.251.84.1 ping statistics ---
15 packets transmitted, 15 received, 0% packet loss, time 14019ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 40.323/40.954/41.328/0.327 ms
Ping unfiltered (Sweden):

Code:
 PING 107.189.0.1 (107.189.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=29.6 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=29.7 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=29.8 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=29.6 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=57 time=29.5 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=57 time=29.9 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=57 time=29.5 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=57 time=29.6 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=57 time=29.8 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=57 time=29.7 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=11 ttl=57 time=29.7 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=12 ttl=57 time=29.8 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=13 ttl=57 time=29.7 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=14 ttl=57 time=29.7 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=15 ttl=57 time=29.7 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=16 ttl=57 time=29.6 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=17 ttl=57 time=29.6 ms
64 bytes from 107.189.0.1: icmp_seq=18 ttl=57 time=29.8 ms
^C
--- 107.189.0.1 ping statistics ---
18 packets transmitted, 18 received, 0% packet loss, time 17030ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 29.576/29.722/29.974/0.115 ms
 
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willie

Active Member
From Hetzner (Falkenstein, DE) dedicated server:

107.189.0.1     11.2 ms

198.251.84.1   21.1 ms

From Nanovz (Dusseldorf, DE) OpenVZ VPS:

107.189.0.1    11.1 ms

198.251.84.1  16.4 ms

From LES (Japan) OpenVZ slabbed in Vultr Xen(?):

107.189.0.1   257 ms

198.251.84.1  oscillates between 275 and 287 ms

I could do a few more but this seems to show the picture.
 
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marrco

New Member
routing problems with OVH for filtered IP still not fixed:

traceroute to 107.189.0.1 (107.189.0.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets

 1  * * *

 2  gra-g1-a9.fr.eu (178.33.103.229)  2.011 ms  2.223 ms  2.200 ms

 3  37.187.36.47 (37.187.36.47)  2.987 ms  2.970 ms rbx-g2-a9.fr.eu (37.187.36.5)  2.451 ms

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 5  ams-ix2.eu.iptransit.com (80.249.211.47)  12.983 ms  12.926 ms  13.261 ms

 6  ae7.r3.ams.tc2.nl.iptransit.com (204.26.60.16)  15.643 ms  16.240 ms  16.051 ms

 7  te2-4.r3.ams.sara.nl.iptransit.com (204.26.60.6)  119.702 ms te2-2.r3.ams.sara.nl.iptransit.com (204.26.60.2)  120.062 ms ae1.r1.lon.iptransit.com (199.59.206.149)  19.641 ms

 8  te4-1.r2.lux.iptransit.com (199.59.206.134)  31.044 ms te2-1.r2.lux.iptransit.com (204.26.60.13)  20.882 ms te4-1.r2.lux.iptransit.com (199.59.206.134)  20.852 ms

 9  ic-root.lux.as5577.net (199.59.206.98)  14.997 ms  18.683 ms  18.638 ms

10  107.189.0.1 (107.189.0.1)  17.058 ms  20.686 ms  16.913 ms

 

traceroute to 192.251.84.1 (192.251.84.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets

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 2  gra-g2-a9.fr.eu (178.33.103.231)  0.757 ms  1.911 ms  2.228 ms

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 5  ae10.mpr2.lhr2.uk.above.net (64.125.31.194)  4.792 ms  4.773 ms  4.750 ms

 6  ae4.cr1.dca2.us.above.net (64.125.20.73)  80.126 ms  81.192 ms  81.170 ms

 7  ae5.cr2.dca2.us.above.net (64.125.20.190)  111.168 ms  111.517 ms  112.594 ms

 8  ae6.mpr4.phl2.us.above.net (64.125.31.26)  78.712 ms  90.466 ms  88.978 ms

 9  ae4.mpr3.phl2.us.above.net (64.125.21.73)  82.377 ms  82.364 ms  82.308 ms

10  128.177.117.186.IPYX-092731-ZYO.above.net (128.177.117.186)  97.940 ms  97.663 ms  96.527 ms

11  te0-1-0-0.car1.ind2.as7332.net (209.43.26.6)  99.005 ms  98.713 ms  98.693 ms

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Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
Eh, it's something I have to prep and account for.  But honestly, I've been expecting VAT to come into play anyways from the get-go, so it's not so much a shock.
 

mikho

Not to be taken seriously, ever!
Is it possible to have a postal address in the EU, and a billing address outside the EU to avoid paying VAT? :ph34r:
Nope.


EU wants all companys that do business with individuals to report the amount of buyers for each country and that every company should pay the VAT to each country.
 
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