GreenValueHost becoming ColoCrossing, dumping providers, etc.

DalComp

New Member
Was, yes. Not sure what blocks they are referring to relating to not being announced, (I'd take a wild guess that it's the HostUS blocks they have swipped to them?), but our blocks are routed properly until the 21st. I'll remain from posting specifics due to client privacy etc etc, but they have known for a month about us revoking IPs, so not sure why they are just now realizing the new blocks aren't routed?
The first notice to clients was sent on June 15, saying IP renumbering is going to take place on June 19.
 

SkylarM

Well-Known Member
Verified Provider
The first notice to clients was sent on June 15, saying IP renumbering is going to take place on June 19.
I'm not familiar since we simply rented them justified IP space, was just clearing up any questions as far as how much of a notice Crissic gave GVH relating to IP revocation, which was just under a full month.
 

GVH-Jon

Banned
There's nothing wrong with ColoCrossing.


ColoCrossing is perhaps one of the best, if not the best, datacenter and network operators in this industry. ColoCrossing is a company that should serve as a role model for everyone to follow as an example of a strong, successful company.


We are trusting upon ColoCrossing to guide the bulk of our growth, development, success and prosperity. Being one of the greatest companies ever to exist, you can't go wrong with them. There's honestly more I'd love to say, and obviously there's more updates to follow (including GVH's IPv6 support discontinuance with QuadraNet), however those updates will remain classified until they are released via email update to our clients.
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
There's nothing wrong with ColoCrossing.


ColoCrossing is perhaps one of the best, if not the best, datacenter and network operators in this industry. ColoCrossing is a company that should serve as a role model for everyone to follow as an example of a strong, successful company.
One of the best?: A role model for everyone? Really? ColoCrossing is a small company with projected revenues of $12 million this year (revenue projections straight out of their spokesman's mouth) which is currently ranked #3 on Spamhaus' World's Worst ISP list . --> http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/networks/ . ColoCrossing is also listed at #1 in the world on Cisco's Senderbase list of the worst SPAM networks both in terms of volume of SPAM coming from its network and number of domains on its network sending SPAM

This is what Spamhaus had to see about your role models at  ColoCrossing (and the other 9 companies on its worst list):

The networks listed on this page knowingly provide service to criminal spam gangs and ignore spam reports from anti-spam systems and Internet users. These networks are defacto Spam Havens from where spammers operate freely and with the full knowledge of the network administrators and the executives. In the name of profits, these ten networks turn a blind eye to criminal spam gangs on their networks.
So Jon, I have to ask you, are your parents proud that you're getting into bed with a bunch of scumbags like Vial and Biloh who repeatedly rent to the worst criminals spam gangs in the world (example: ROKSO listee Yair Shalev who was indicted by the FTC for fraud this year and is a long time repeat CC customer) ?  You really should find some better role models than the suburban daycare kids in Williamsville.  A company that survives by renting to criminals isn't successful...it, and it's executives are unethical losers. 

Now that I've had my rant :p , back to topic.  There is no excuse for only giving 4 days for an IP renumbering...especially when the provider knew about it for a month.
 

GVH-Jon

Banned
We have our reasons for everything and we do what is best for the interests of business and customers.


ColoCrossing aren't criminals. They're more so like the demigods of this industry. Biloh, Vial and CC executives aren't unethical. They're real people who have tremendous business acumen and a professional business strategy and appearance. I see them as my role models.


It doesn't matter that ColoCrossing is on SpamHaus' top spam supporters. That means absolutely nothing. They take care of abuse as appropriate and they don't intentionally try to dirty their IPs or network.


You have absolutely no idea how great the people that work at CC are. Compared to every other company active on this forum they're high up top on the mountain of success on a golden pedestal.
 

MannDude

Just a dude
vpsBoard Founder
Moderator
There's nothing wrong with ColoCrossing.


ColoCrossing is perhaps one of the best, if not the best, datacenter and network operators in this industry. ColoCrossing is a company that should serve as a role model for everyone to follow as an example of a strong, successful company.


We are trusting upon ColoCrossing to guide the bulk of our growth, development, success and prosperity. Being one of the greatest companies ever to exist, you can't go wrong with them. There's honestly more I'd love to say, and obviously there's more updates to follow (including GVH's IPv6 support discontinuance with QuadraNet), however those updates will remain classified until they are released via email update to our clients.
Jesus tap dancing, trash can humping, Herandez, vampire slaying Christ.

You do realize that, what, a month or two ago you yourself were slamming CC and stating you would drop your CC locations? I'm not saying Colocrossing isn't a good fit for GVH. Their brands and yours seem to share common quality characteristics of being comically bad, but you flip-flop more than an aspiring two-faced politician. 

Two months from now I am sure you'll have dropped a different service, a different location, or do something that completely contradicts your actions today.

You're the laughing stock of the hosting industry. I am sure in your mind you will interpret that as a positive thing, but anything GVH related nowadays is purely comedy. You've already ruined your chance of operating a brand that anyone will ever take serious, have tarnished your name in the industry of being an incompetent and incapable and continue to make us laugh, and continue to push towards that each day instead of moving away from that.

Good luck.

EDIT: The good news for GVH is you'll get more LEB offers posted now, so I guess there is that. Plus I don't see CC being strict with IP allocations since they cater to spammers and you cater to the same bottom feeder audience, so from a business standpoint... I'm not hating. I understand why you need to move... just find your consistent flip-flopping, questionable practices and multiple steps backwards in improving your brand image comical, as we all do.
 
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drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Oy fucking vey!  That will teach me to step away and get some dinner.

I've seen trains derail in a prettier fashion than the reach around jerking Jonny just gave CC.

We are trusting upon ColoCrossing to guide the bulk of our growth, development, success and prosperity.

Does this mean you are now officially part of the Velocity Server / Colocrossing hosting cult?  Or do we establish this officially a year later on WHT when you and the cohorts are facing the ban hammers?

Cause, if that isn't the situation, you are bastardizing English to an annoying degree.   Your upstream doesn't guide shit, where you shit or how you shit.  This is starting to sound like the HudsonValleyHost situation / acquisition.

Being one of the greatest companies ever to exist, you can't go wrong with them.

Sounds like Enron or a list of other big egos, control freaks and dishonest twits who would throw their mom in a chipper for the almighty dollar.

(including GVH's IPv6 support discontinuance...)

Call me selective in hearing, but IPV6 discontinuance....?   Only reason to discontinue such today is because you are 1. a fool,  2. Technically incompetent and 3. running on CC's IPV6-refusal network.

Since you like to swing your ding old school style, maybe you can jew your prices down more and get one of those CVPS style 100Mbps server setups.
 

Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
Does this mean you are now officially part of the Velocity Server / Colocrossing hosting cult? Or do we establish this officially a year later on WHT when you and the cohorts are facing the ban hammers?
Being a part of CC doesn't get you banned (yet).

Call me selective in hearing, but IPV6 discontinuance....? Only reason to discontinue such today is because you are 1. a fool, 2. Technically incompetent and 3. running on CC's IPV6-refusal network.
They're direct Quadranet right now and they have V6. There's no reason to remove a feature that's supposedly working to spec and causing no problems. The only reason I could see if they're migrating that location with CC or another California host without IPV6 (I can't think of any others).

Given his above comments about his feelings towards their company, it's pretty obvious. It's possible he's been able to get Quadranet to transfer his /24's to CC and they'll announce/static route it, but who knows.

I think the biggest issue is the flip flopping. You want to have all your services in CC locations? Fine, go for it. No one is stopping you and it likely wasn't hurting your business all that much. This whole "We are moving every location and forcing at least 1 renumber" isn't kind to your customers.

What's going on in their Dallas location? Does that still exist or did it get merged/migrated already? Can we assume the same will happen?

Francisco
 
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drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Being a part of CC doesn't get you banned (yet).
Yeah well affiliation with CC is like the scarlet letter on your forehead. Especially where they 'own' you through a 'partner' scamola with you ghost-operating the place.   A year later, some pedestrian refund doesn't happen and the owner of the company talks himself into a hole about not being able to authorize chargeback/refund.  Which then leads to who owns the company (what did Buffa tell you?).  Mind you at that point, hordes of people are sitting on that fence watching the thread about to decay into chaos and ban hammer strikes. Deja vue, episode two.

They're direct Quadranet right now and they have V6. There's no reason to remove a feature that's supposedly working to spec and causing no problems. The only reason I could see if they're migrating that location with CC or another California host without IPV6 (I can't think of any others). Given his above comments about his feelings towards their company, it's pretty obvious.
Yeah spot on.  Unsure what locations GVH is offering currently.  But, may have been Quadra in Los Angeles and Dallas.  Both are CC available markets.  No IPv6 anywhere for CC.... so, while there other companies that don't have IPv6 it's clear what is up here. 

But big picture the historians are forgetting is that GVH isn't a CC customer.  They are a HVH customer...  HVH is parked in the middle. Any folding in or debt collection would be pursued there. Which starts to put some wood behind those WHT comments up top and futurecasting the situation if this is that shell co/ghost oprator gimmick again.

Cause, really, I can't see CC dedicating resources to GVH and babysitting things, picking up the phone when Jonny calls 10 times, etc.  Everyone likes cheerleaders, most dudes though like chicks doing the cheering and the rest of the extra curricular ego stroking.  Like someone said, elsewhere:

"Here is some wine and some IPs. Lets play cuddle monster again"
 

Epidrive

New Member
Verified Provider
Jesus tap dancing, trash can humping, Herandez, vampire slaying Christ.


You do realize that, what, a month or two ago you yourself were slamming CC and stating you would drop your CC locations? I'm not saying Colocrossing isn't a good fit for GVH. Their brands and yours seem to share common quality characteristics of being comically bad, but you flip-flop more than an aspiring two-faced politician.


Two months from now I am sure you'll have dropped a different service, a different location, or do something that completely contradicts your actions today.


You're the laughing stock of the hosting industry. I am sure in your mind you will interpret that as a positive thing, but anything GVH related nowadays is purely comedy. You've already ruined your chance of operating a brand that anyone will ever take serious, have tarnished your name in the industry of being an incompetent and incapable and continue to make us laugh, and continue to push towards that each day instead of moving away from that.


Good luck.


EDIT: The good news for GVH is you'll get more LEB offers posted now, so I guess there is that. Plus I don't see CC being strict with IP allocations since they cater to spammers and you cater to the same bottom feeder audience, so from a business standpoint... I'm not hating. I understand why you need to move... just find your consistent flip-flopping, questionable practices and multiple steps backwards in improving your brand image comical, as we all do.
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Exactly my thoughts. Except for the LEB offers part, pretty sure LEB wouldnt allow any publication of GVH offers, its like allowing a dog to shit on your room.
 
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texteditor

Premium Buffalo-based Hosting
ColoCrossing is perhaps one of the best, if not the best, datacenter and network operators in this industry. ColoCrossing is a company that should serve as a role model for everyone to follow as an example of a strong, successful company.
ColoCrossing aren't criminals. They're more so like the demigods of this industry. Biloh, Vial and CC executives aren't unethical. They're real people who have tremendous business acumen and a professional business strategy and appearance. I see them as my role models.
Jesus tap dancing, trash can humping, Herandez, vampire slaying Christ.
 

texteditor

Premium Buffalo-based Hosting
Serious question, how much money did you Lance owe ColoCrossing ~2 months ago or whatever time before this deal went down? bet it makes all those tickets he get look like pocketchange
 

DomainBop

Dormant VPSB Pathogen
What's going on in their Dallas location?
Dallas was still Quadranet as of their June 1st LET offer but 18 days is a lifetime in GVHland so your guess is as good as mine which DC they're using today.

I'm more interested in the Amsterdam situation in light of this humorous PM Jon sent Patrick when GVH launched there 2 months ago: http://pasteboard.co/27E2IHJo.png

edited to reply to this comment of Jon's:

They take care of abuse as appropriate and they don't intentionally try to dirty their IPs or network.
Click on these 2 links.  This is what it looks like when datacenters and providers have a zero tolerance SPAM policy and take a proactive approach to SPAM on their networks:

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings/incero.com

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings/seflow.net

(congrats to both of them on their silver whitehat stars)
 
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texteditor

Premium Buffalo-based Hosting
Dallas was still Quadranet as of their June 1st LET offer but 18 days is a lifetime in GVHland so your guess is as good as mine which DC they're using today.

I'm more interested in the Amsterdam situation in light of this humorous PM Jon sent Patrick when GVH launched there 2 months ago: http://pasteboard.co/27E2IHJo.png
I remember him making some public callouts of Patrick too, hahaha
 

H4G

New Member
Verified Provider
They do not deal with CC directly as well, they go in via HVH to CC. So, it's a alpha-beta-major-clusterfuck going on. 
 

Amitz

New Member
ColoCrossing aren't criminals. They're more so like the demigods of this industry. Biloh, Vial and CC executives aren't unethical. They're real people who have tremendous business acumen and a professional business strategy and appearance. I see them as my role models.
Whenever GVH-Jon writes psychedelic stuff like this about Colocrossing, a poor kitten in a parallel universe dies. That has to stop. SAVE THE KITTENS!

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Francisco

Company Lube
Verified Provider
They do not deal with CC directly as well, they go in via HVH to CC. So, it's a alpha-beta-major-clusterfuck going on.
Same difference. Remember, they're both owned by the same parent company which is run by almost the same people (Ernie being the only difference).

I think HVH even has different inventory than what CC has, just so one doesn't affect the other.

Francisco
 
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