GVH-Jon
Banned
Without saying any specifics .. that's not entirely true.
Last edited by a moderator:
GreenValueHost becoming ColoCrossing, dumping providers, etc.
- Thread starter drmike
- Start date
Then fair enough, It was just a comment that was floating around. It'd make more sense if they all
just shared from a pool of available equipment, but I could understand there being a split in
equipment for management purposes.
Francisco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo
mikho
Not to be taken seriously, ever!
Best movie quote ever.!
After reading this entire thread just now...thank you for saying what I was thinking haha.
To Jon/GVH: How do you expect to stay in business another year or two with these prices? I mean it's not like your getting any good reviews lately. What happens when something goes wrong and your razor thin margins are already barley cutting it?
By all means, let me know what your doing to succeed (in the long run) that I'm not.
Getting servers at cost so CC can grow their justification for more IPs to tarnish isn't exactly a secret or new concept.
Amitz
New Member
I see new stains on the carpet...
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
So again, everything ends up being just like I said.... Ho hum.
GVH is running for shelter with HVH / CC. Officially or unofficially being part of the Velocity / ColoCrossing family, blah, not highly material.
What is material is based on the LET offer I saw today, either CC/HVH owns GVH or they are handing him crazy preferential near-at-cost servers and bandwidth. The details on some of the offers are full blown RETARDED. $5 a year, 24 core access, piles of bandwidth, etc.
Again, CC is doing this shit to tank the market. Same mentality as snaking LET/LEB and controlling the marketplace.
Intentional cost diving on services. They can't compete on quality, customer service, etc. so they create a destructive economic model instead. Let them sell to 200k customers to gross ahhh $1-2 million a year. No money in the model for support, dealing with issues (maybe that's part of why spam is out of control on CC's network - in addition to them selling IPs directly to spammers for money), etc.
I know I am watching a slow motion trainwreck and all the collective ant hills of money aren't going to change the situation into some suburban utopian love story like CC and cohorts keep spinning.
Last edited by a moderator:
GVH-Jon
Banned
You don't have any idea what you're talking about Curtis.
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
If I were you, I wouldn't ever claim such a thing AGAIN. ANYWHERE.
This undoubtedly crosses legal lines into price fixing. A practice that governments in the United States frown about. Spare me the customers benefit bullshit.
DomainBop
Dormant VPSB Pathogen
$6 monthly for 5GB RAM, 120GB SSD space, 13 IPv4s, provider doesn't own his own equipment or IP space and claims to be a completely independent company...no comment
edit:
and the SATA version with 6GB RAM, 325GB HD, and 25TB bw for $6 monthly:
/24 per node. Oversell much?
When a provider packs that many OpenVZ VPS's on a single dedicated server (which uses local storage) it should be called what it is: shared hosting.
edit:
The special arrangements would be your scumbag role models in Buffalo subsidizing their "house brands" low price plans with the profits they make from selling to spammers and people who the US government has said are engaged in criminal activity (yes, CC received another ROKSO SBL today for scam emails fraudster Yair Shalev is sending from ColoCrossing's network. Yair has been a CC customer far longer than Jonny has, and ColoCrossing has received over 100 Yair -related SBL's in the last 2 years alone...and yet he's still a customer. Wonder how much he pays for the privilege of remaining a customer?
Last edited by a moderator:
Riiiiight.
It's quite a simple business model. Doesn't really work long-term, but Jon will figure that out soon enough. He has a handful of unpaid bills with Quadranet, including some hefty bandwidth overages. How do you pay these bills? Sell annual packages to pay the monthly bills of course! But you see, if you are hosted with ColoCrossing, with preferential treatment from Ernie @ HVH (who has complete access to their WHMCS to "setup and manage the sales orders of dedicated servers"), you are going to get a lot more leeway on your bills going unpaid for a longer period of time before they start knocking on doors.$6 monthly for 5GB RAM, 120GB SSD space, 13 IPv4s, provider doesn't own his own equipment or IP space and claims to be a completely independent company...no comment
Jon is purely playing the unsustainable game of "sell annuals to pay monthly bills" and to try and stay afloat, all the while playing to the advantage of the annoyingly retarded drama surrounding a "company" that Jon doesn't even legally own, all to drum up sales for unsustainable products he knows aren't profitable by themselves.
Last edited by a moderator:
Amitz
New Member
That's just a matter of special agreements...
Fix't
drmike
100% Tier-1 Gogent
Well I remember that smacking of Patrick / Iniz about GVH coming to AMS to compete and eat his lunch....
Outside of BlueVM, no other CC owned/partner company has non CC location(s)....
So.... AMS customers, get your moving truck ready and get to making backups, now.