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drmike

drmike

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Sorry to do this to you @serverhub. If someone sprung this thread on you, well, shame on them.
 

We are in no way affiliated with with Colocrossing or B2Net. Feel free to visit our one of our major facilities in Phoenix or Dallas and we'll be glad to give you a tour of our office and facilities.
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No affiliation with B2Net...

Source: http://bgp.he.net/AS30693#_prefixes

There you will find 36 IP ranges owned by Eonix which are delegated to B2 Net.   Clearly,  you know who B2 Net is as they are fairly large "customer".  Kind of disproves the no affiliation with B2Net claim.

Rebuttal?
 
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serverhub

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buffalooed said:
Sorry to do this to you @serverhub. If someone sprung this thread on you, well, shame on them.

No affiliation with B2Net...

Source: http://bgp.he.net/AS30693#_prefixes

There you will find 36 IP ranges owned by Eonix which are delegated to B2 Net.   Clearly,  you know who B2 Net is as they are fairly large "customer".  Kind of disproves the no affiliation with B2Net claim.

Rebuttal?
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I was referring to our BRANDS and how you previously mentioned us as shell company of Colocrossing and B2Net You already proved that we host b2netsolutions (http://vpsboard.com/topic/963-thread-for-buffalooed-to-investigate/?view=findpost&p=25010)

You can see here from their IPv4 peers that ServerHub / Eonix Corporation / Infinitie Networks / B2 Net Solutions Inc. are all listed as peers :) One in the same company like I told you and related to earlier post revelations:

http://bgp.he.net/AS30693#_prefixes
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VPSAce, ServerHub, Aim2Game, etc.  Nope, would like to say their are CC owned.  Certainly lots foul about the relationship and mass posting of their offers on LEB/LET.
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Please refer to the VPS ACE / ServerHub / dozen other shell company example to see why they (CC) need continued attention (i.e. non stop promotion on LEB of their offers while knowing who owns the companies / pulling sham):
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I'm well aware of us hosting them and we don't hide it, we even have testimonials of them on our website.  http://serverhub.com/products/dedicated/phoenix-express-servers.php

I'm simply arguing that were aren't the same company. :)
 
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drmike

drmike

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serverhub

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buffalooed said:
Point #2: Your website: http://serverhub.com/corporate/contact-corporate.php

ServerHub®

52453 - 524 Queen Street W

Toronto, ON M5V 2B0 Canada

Their (B2 Net Solutions / Servermania) website: http://www.b2netsolutions.com/contactus.htm

Server Mania


52453 - 524 Queen Street W


Toronto, Ontario


M5V 2B0


Canada

Why are you both sharing an address and why are you sharing an address with an unffiliated "customer"?
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buffalooed said:
Point #3: Your website: http://serverhub.com/corporate/corporate-profile.php

"ServerHub is headquartered in Henderson, Nevada"

ServerHub


2360 Corporate Circle Suite 400


Henderson, NV 89074

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2360 Corporate Circle Suite 400 is the address of http://www.incorp.com/incorporation-formation-registration.aspx

Incorp is a big incorporation firm and registered agent service.

Legally you are paper wise incorporated there.   As far as having a headquarters there, that you do not.
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That was the PO Box address for our Canadian registered company, not sure why they ripped it from our site.

Our company was registered in Canada (2000),

Search "Eonix"

https://rjsc.gov.ns.ca/rjsc/acceptTerms.do?lang=en

And 2004 in the United States,

http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=T6fuf4B%252fJWcdj6OgZ%252bW9CQ%253d%253d&nt7=0

While CC was registered in 2006 ;)

http://appext20.dos.ny.gov/corp_public/CORPSEARCH.ENTITY_INFORMATION?p_nameid=3345784&p_corpid=3330827&p_entity_name=velocity%20servers&p_name_type=A&p_search_type=BEGINS&p_srch_results_page=0

Somehow the math doesn't add up. :)

And yes we do have headquarters, :)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f9dm7iz6wxar7ue/poo.JPG

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6n5u7evh3qs4ux1/photo%281%29.JPG

https://www.dropbox.com/s/28gdunjvi76l98o/photo.JPG

Thank you for your concerns :)
 
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drmike

drmike

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I will look over the documents here in a bit.

One thing I'll address is that never was there an intended inference that these companies are Colocrossing or that Colocrossing owns them or visa-versa.

The contention that B2Net and it's many "brands" are related to ServerHub, well that's the core issue.

Where Colocrossing ties in I'll show that later.
 
drmike

drmike

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So, I quickly glanced things.  

It's funny, I think ServerHub / Eonix might actually be on the honest side of things.  

I give extra points for unveiling the NS corporate stuff.  

This is a hoot, the photo with the "NO COLOCROSSING HERE".

faMLNvT.jpg

I think you two are trendsetters :)  Last week it was NO CC disclaimer on ads.  Now we have providers verifying their details and taking snapshots proclaiming their distance.
 
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drmike

drmike

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Back to the business side of things.

You are unsure why your customer B2Net used your "mailbox" service address?  This isn't the first time I've seen this in the industry.   B2Net seems a tad big though to be doing this.

"That was the PO Box address for our Canadian registered company"

I've noted that address is still used on your serverhub.com site.

My question is why do you use all these maildrop services as a legitimate company?  Nothing wrong with a mail forwarding service, but you have a few. 

Feel free to PM me where I can find your building with the corporate logo, not that I don't believe you.  Just eonix.net bears the Nevada incorporation company address.  Serverhub.com bears the Nevada incorporation company address and that mail drop in Toronto.  The whois info for both domains  shows Nevada incorporation company address.

I'm hoping everything for Eonix is on the straight and narrow really.  Your customer though,  beyond explaining to do, has other shady dealings and is what has you being tied to Colocrossing.
 
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serverhub

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buffalooed


I can't speak for why B2Net is using our mail forward drop. I can tell you why I originally used it. It dates back to 2003 when I was living in Toronto at the time. I lived 2 blocks away and decided to use it there and have everything come to that forward. This was before the US corporation and before ServerHub.com as we know it. Since we maintain a Canadian corporation, we have maintained that address as we would much rather use that, then the address listed in Nova Scotia. If you notice, we have been in the field since 2000.


Longer then both these businesses.


Look at our ASN we have different providers, different everything. Yes, B2Net has IP space with us because they maintain a presence in our AZ facility which was before they went with colo crossing. Our swips to B2Net is the requirement we have to report the usage in the ARIN Whois database.


Our arizona field office holds the majority of our staff. Which is where that pic was taken. Notice the deserty non grass dull background


As a company that has been around for quite some time and someone who takes pride in our brand I am publicly extending an offer for you. If you are here in the US which I believe you are. I will personally fly you out to Arizona to tour or az datacenter and meet with our staff. We love our brand and the services we offer and would love to share our culture with you. You can see first hand our operations and this will without a doubt ease your mind on your concerns of b2net / cc.
 
drmike

drmike

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@serverhub, mostly I point out the obvious and the public details.

I give you a big hand clap for addressing the confusion in both a direct and sufficient manner.

The mail drop, yes, strange arrangement your Canadien Post has with PO boxes in such stores.  Your, incorporation in Nova Scotia is clean and clear.  Right on point.

My only slight issue with the Toronto maldrop is proximity to B2 Net's former address at Younge.  It's quite too close for comfort < 2 miles. See: http://binged.it/1dNSq50.  I'd like to see them revise their mailing info since you've indicated a problem with that.  Seems very, umm dishonest on their part.  Suspect in the time they've used the drop, should have had mail come to you with their company name on it.

The IP SWIPs make sense. Someone more versed in that can speak on it if I am missing something obvious.  I admit I am a bit confused with B2 Net's IP issuance and use across both companies/datacenters.

I appreciate your gracious offer.  I'll look to do something better  if everything rings true and clear on this, on my own dime.

If you might, ask Kevin over at B2 Net to stop by here and clear up any issues with his company and flesh out the raised concerns.

Again, the issue is hinged on B2 Net and the PO Box address mainly, and his proximity of address prior.
 
MartinD

MartinD

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faMLNvT.jpg

This has to be one of the best photographs I've ever seen on any webhosting related forum as well as the best 'fingers to CC/CVPS' post in a long time.

Epic and much deserved kudos to ServerHub.
 
tallship

tallship

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buffalooed said:
I just performed that task and here are the results showing the downward decline of Lowendtalk offers. 

Key things to note:

1. The big hacks of Lowendtalk occurred around May 15.  That resulted in this community coming into public view and many Colocrossing critics abandoning LET and LEB.

2. A company is affiliated where a company has existing services with CC, even though offer may not be at a CC location.

Summary findings:

1. Total offers on LEB has decreased every month for 5 months.

2. % of offers that are CC related has increased every month except one.

3. % of offers that are CC has ballooned from 21% in April to over 41% in August

4. Offers that ran as last offer for multiple days increased every month for past 5 months.

5. Offers that ran as last for multiple days that were CC increased for a low of 25% to a high of 54% in August.
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Thank you very much for all the work that went into that effort :)
 
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serverhub

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@buffalooed. Thanks for the praise, I am rather interested as well in the fact they have the mail forwarder for our Canadian correspondence as well. We have it set up as a forwarder for that location. Multiple companies do use that example: http://virgingaming.com/tournaments/espnfc/rules.html Virgin Gaming also uses them as well, as per a search I found.

Our SWIPs on IP space to B2NET are done in accordance with: https://www.arin.net/resources/request/reassignments.html
 

Any reassignment of IP space from our customers are required to have a completed SWIP. 

We would definitely love to host you here at our offices and show you around our facilities, so if you do decide to come on by, let me know and we will make all the arrangements. 
 
drmike

drmike

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Tee hee! Virgin Gaming just loves that PO Box setup there :)

Does the post provide mail acceptance and forwarding to customers? Foreign arrange with the drug store locations.

Thanks for the info
 
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serverhub

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@buffalooed

How we did it was we pay the business international forwarding fee on an annual bases with Canada Post, similar to the US based USPS moving form. It works out really efficiently. My reason with going with Toronto was because I lived right off Queen Street and it was the closest place for me at the time. If you look when we were all Canada based and I lived in Vancouver for a short period of time, the box was in Vancouver BC. But when I expatriated to the United States and since forwarding was still in place for Toronto > Vancouver. I gave up the PO BOX in Vancouver and changed forwarding to International via Toronto.

But yeah with Canada Post anyone can do mail forwarding as long as they pay the $$$$ to Canada Post =)

and now you know my backstory. Brings me back to my early days =) 
 
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