UGVPS = Thomas Dale = Crystal Dale = ChicagoVPS = Dig the Mine

nunim

VPS Junkie
You can't really be serious with that question? Look at the number of people who are specifically looking for locations that have nothing to do with CC. The customers now looking to move away from CC is growing daily. Even Fran has mentioned he loses out on business because he is with CC and people don't want that.
Although this is the way I feel, aside from here and LET, most people don't have the first clue who ColoCrossing is as they're very small fish. The crap quality of their network and lack of IPv6 probably loses them more customers then any of terrible reputation. 
 

MannDude

Just a dude
vpsBoard Founder
Moderator
I'm actually surprised that this has gone on for 4 pages with no dispute from UGVPS or CVPS.

I doubt they haven't heard about it yet, certainly someone has pointed them to this thread.
 

Reece-DM

New Member
Verified Provider
I'm actually surprised that this has gone on for 4 pages with no dispute from UGVPS or CVPS.

I doubt they haven't heard about it yet, certainly someone has pointed them to this thread.
What ya know, CVPS is back on LEB! :p
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Maybe someone should tell the LEB buyers about this little thread... and the other threads...
 
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MannDude

Just a dude
vpsBoard Founder
Moderator
Maybe someone should tell the LEB buyers about this little thread... and the other threads...
You and I both know those responses would be removed quickly. They don't want links to vpsB posted on their site(s) if they can help it, even if it's relevant content that is not found elsewhere.

We're much smaller than them, and I don't care if you link to http://webhostingtalk.com, http://lowendtalk.com, http://lowendbox.com or http://hostingdiscussion.com , but Jon and/or the mods get all sort of butthurt over vpsBoard.
 
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Aldryic C'boas

The Pony
You and I both know those responses would be removed quickly. They don't want links to vpsB posted on their site(s) if they can help it, even if it's relevant content that is not found elsewhere.

We're much smaller than them, and I don't care if you link to http://webhostingtalk.com, http://lowendtalk.com, http://lowendbox.com or http://hostingdiscussion.com , but Jon and/or the mods get all sort of butthurt over vpsBoard.
I told him once that he reeks of fear.  I really cant think of any better description for how they act.
 

drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
I told him once that he reeks of fear.  I really cant think of any better description for how they act.
All the manhood in that family tree seems to be locked up with dear old dad. Poor old dad should have made a stain instead of a son.  Too bad the son is so pro fake wars and doing underhanded stuff in business that is ANTI-the American success story, plus censoring folks at will.  Dad seems to be a total 180.

Stinks of fear, no doubt about it.    But all you sensed with your training is the scent of weasel.  A weasel who knew inevitably, someone like you would see more to that weakness and realize the underlying deceits.

Sad you guys got snookered/lured, against your better judgment.
 

Epidrive

New Member
Verified Provider
You and I both know those responses would be removed quickly. They don't want links to vpsB posted on their site(s) if they can help it, even if it's relevant content that is not found elsewhere.


We're much smaller than them, and I don't care if you link to http://webhostingtalk.com, http://lowendtalk.com, http://lowendbox.com or http://hostingdiscussion.com , but Jon and/or the mods get all sort of butthurt over vpsBoard.
Maybe you can x-post this on LET, and then link the LEB listing to the xposted LET thread?
 

mpkossen

New Member
I think the information buff posts is entirely valuable information. The issue here is that honesty is apparently just too hard to come by in the industry.  There are plenty of companies that just lie through their teeth because they feel they have to. At this point I could care less about what company owns what company or what company owns their hardware versus renting their hardware, I just care about the company being honest and not attempting to cover stuff up. That goes right back to companies that say "New York" instead of Buffalo. Some providers feel they have to hide their provider, because it's an obvious CC location to try and get customers, what else is said company willing to lie about to get you in the door?

If a company is willing to cover up their affiliations with other companies, then what ELSE are they willing to outright lie about? The amount of people they cram per node when they say they don't do that? The way their backups and data-recovery systems work? The amount of STAFFING they have? How "big" and "successful" their company is doing when in reality they aren't? At what point is the line drawn?
Hypocritically, buffalooed hides his own identity while demanding openness and transparency from CC/CVPS/UGVPS etc. The only person that ever fought this was Chris, I remember.
 

SkylarM

Well-Known Member
Verified Provider
Hypocritically, buffalooed hides his own identity while demanding openness and transparency from CC/CVPS/UGVPS etc. The only person that ever fought this was Chris, I remember.
Referring to what exactly? His name? If it is personal name, then I think it's fair game to protect your personal identity if not affiliated with a specific company. We're talking about legal business entities here performing not-so-legal actions, not personal spats between two individuals. Timmy didn't steal Bobbies lunch money and lie about it here.

If it was the competition making the posts, then sure. But it's not. I very highly doubt he is operating under malicious intent for his own personal profits.
 
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drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
Hypocritically, buffalooed hides his own identity while demanding openness and transparency from CC/CVPS/UGVPS etc. The only person that ever fought this was Chris, I remember.
Here's the pickle smarty,  I am not a corporation.   I am not hiding behind some veil to protect my stuff from legal claims like your buddies and those paying your paycheck.  Come troll all you want, but you are on the payroll over there and are bitter your "friends" are on the radar or are being paid to troll.   

They put themselves on the radar.  Lengthy list of lies, deceptions and creative reality twists.  It has been many years in the making.  Plus, they are a corporation and subject to public scrutiny.

Let's revise the wording --- openness and transparency. Openness I could give a crap about.  Perhaps some open source switches would be a good idea for CC :)  I think you have some... Errr....  I don't use the word openness.

Transparency,  funny world fella.

Definition: ... easy to see through, understand, or recognize; obvious ....

Would that be such a terrible thing?  Everything about CC is shrouded in strangeness.  Is it too much to ask that staff/employees actually be real people?  Is it too much to ask that same company doesn't have perverse staff overlaps with "customer" companies?

I expect a small $2/mo VPS company to pay people sh!t.  But a facility "owner".  A company that prides itself on a million dollar router, a new HQ's and other shows of flash in the pan...   Well I expect them to pay folks a living wage so the employees aren't having to whore themselves out to the customers.  That's not my story, that's what you want me to believe that there is no conflict.  CC employees just migrate to CVPS during their free time to make a little extra dough.

Since you brought up Mr. Mouth's name.  Let me point out again, that you folks at CC use CVPS as a "Case Study".  Even though, a blind man who sells pork for a living can see that is bogus.

The same Chicago fella, said in public that he NEVER WORKED FOR CC.  That Biloh just put him on the website to make the company look big/real/established.   Last time I checked, that constitutes fraud and false advertising.  It surely puts a dent in sanity and validity of the Case Study.

Then you have this other issue with SummitServers, a subsidiary of CC you probably didn't even realize existed:

"Summit is the brain child of two ex-Cisco engineers. With over 18 years of combined networking experience"
For transparency sake,  you and your colleagues CANNOT support this claim.  It is bogus, was bogus and will remain forever bogus.  You never had two ex-Cisco engineers.  Never.  You had one very smart guy though who is lingering in the hallways, so I'd watch before trying to BS your way over that. I know, blame it on the marketing goon of years past, yeah rogue employee.   Too bad it's still live: www.summit-servers.com/aboutus.php
 
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drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
TL;DR = CC leadership has lied and continues to lie.  Nothing wrong with lying now is there?

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drmike

100% Tier-1 Gogent
When I think about the CVPS + CC guys I think of this too...

 
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Jeffrey

New Member
I, personally, do not purchase any VPS's in any ColoCrossing location.  Chris is an immature dick and he doesn't give a flying shit about his clients.  In my eye's, ChicagoVPS IS ColoCrossing, so therefor, Chris works for ColoCrossing.  This news is not surprising to me.
 

JayZ

New Member
I'm guessing you put so much effort into bashing cvps because you are a competitor and your not doing so well? Maybe I'm wrong.

One does have to think that all of the negativity, regardless of the provider your bashing is bad for the industry as a whole.

But thats not really why i'm here. I want anthonySmith to give me the link to the $3/yr vps plan advertised in his signature. cant pass up that deal.
 
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